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Karen

Karen Report 2 Jan 2013 22:22

thomas hull was married to irene mcateer 1942 in Preston. I know that Thomas mother was named Hannah, born in Chester? I dont have any other information. Hannah is on her own (i think) in 1901. I also think that she had another child John but unsure of this. Please help. x
:-)

Karen

Karen Report 2 Jan 2013 22:24

I know of Thomas and Irenes children. Its Thomas ancestors i need help with, Thanks

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Jan 2013 22:25

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Hannah Hull
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Chester,? Cheshire
census: 1911 Preston,? Preston,? Lancashire,? England


name: Hannah Hull
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 49
birthplace: Chester, Cheshire
record type: Household
registration district: Preston
sub-district: West Preston
parish: Preston
county: Lancashire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Jan 2013 22:25

Hannah Hull
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1862 Chester,? Chester
census: 31 Mar 1901 Preston,? Lancashire,? England


name: Hannah Hull
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 39
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Chester, Chester
record type: Household
registration district: Preston
sub-district: St John
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Preston
county: Lancashire

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jan 2013 22:26

1911

any good?
Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
HULL, Hannah Head Widow F 49 1862 Shopkeeper Off - Licence Grocery Chester Cheshire VIEW
HULL, Thomas Son Single M 24 1887 Colliery Agent Preston Lanc VIEW
HULL, Mabel Daughter Single F 22 1889 Preston Lanc VIEW
HULL, John Son Single M 20 1891 Clerk In Coal Office Assisting Brother Preston Lanc VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 25315
Reference: RG14PN25315 RG78PN1448 RD476 SD4 ED12 SN500
Registration District: Preston
Sub District: West Preston
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Preston
Address: 1 and 2 Euston Street Preston



Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jan 2013 22:28

1891
Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
HULL, Thomas Head Married M 30 1861 Bread Baker
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Hannah Wife Married F 30 1861
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Thomas Son M 4 1887
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Mabel Daughter F 2 1889
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
HULL, Jack Son M 0 (7M) 1891
Preston, Lancashire VIEW
MIDDLETON, Samuel Father In Law Married M 63 1828 Coachman Domestic
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
Piece: 3441
Folio: 31
Page: 12
Registration District: Preston
Civil Parish: Preston
Municipal Borough: Preston
Address: 2, Lythgoe Place, Preston
County: Lancashire



Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jan 2013 22:31

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Hull Thomas Preston 8e 782b
Middleton Hannah Preston 8e 782b


Regards VERA

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jan 2013 22:34

Thomas Hull in 1881 before he married Hannah:-

1881 census transcription details for: 18, Grimshaw St, Preston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4227
Folio: 80
Page: 27
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: Trinity
Parish: Preston
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 18, Grimshaw St, Preston
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

HULL, Martha Head Widow F 59 1822 Bread Baker
Appleton, Cheshire
HULL, Martha J Daughter Single F 28 1853 Bread Baker Asst
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Anne Daughter Single F 22 1859 Bread Baker Asst
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Thomas Son Single M 20 1861 Bread Baker Asst
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 19 1862 Dress Maker
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Ellen Daughter Single F 17 1864 Dress Maker
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
SPITT, Arthur Hy Visitor Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
SPITT, Ann Visitor Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire
BANISTER, Thomas Boarder Single M 21 1860 Coal Agent
Lancaster Preston, Lancashire

Kath. x

Vera

Vera Report 2 Jan 2013 22:34

Possible death
Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Hull Thomas 37 Preston 8e 426



Regards Vera

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jan 2013 22:36

1871 census:-

1871 census transcription details for: Church Street, Preston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 4212
Folio: 42
Page: 12
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: Preston
Parish: Preston
Enum. District: 63
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Preston

Address: Church Street, Preston
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HULL, Thomas Head M 53 1818 Lancashire
HULL, Martha Wife F 49 1822 Cheshire
HULL, Mary Daughter F 20 1851 Lancashire
HULL, Martha Jane Daughter F 18 1853 Lancashire
HULL, Eliza Daughter F 15 1856 Lancashire
HULL, Ann Daughter F 13 1858 Lancashire
HULL, Thomas Son M 10 1861 Lancashire
HULL, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1862 Lancashire
HULL, Ellen Daughter F 7 1864 Lancashire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jan 2013 22:38

1861 census transcription details for: 42, Church Street, Preston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 3138
Folio: 65
Page: 27
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: 2 Preston
Parish: Preston
Enum. District: 55
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough: Preston

Address: 42, Church Street, Preston
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

HULL, Thomas Head Married M 42 1819 Provision Dealer Employing 2 Men
Chorley, Lancashire
HULL, Martha Wife Married F 39 1822 Provision Dealers Wife
Appleton, Cheshire
HULL, Mary Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Kirkdale
HULL, Martha Jane Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Eliza Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Ann Daughter F 2 1859
Preston, Lancashire
HULL, Thomas Son M 0 (9M) 1861
Preston, Lancashire

Kath. x

Karen

Karen Report 2 Jan 2013 22:39

Thankyou, sorry im a bit vague im still learning. Im not very fast either. please bare with me I cant believe you are all so quick. Thankyou so much im checking,,,, may take a while. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jan 2013 22:41

Possible for Hannah in the 1881 census before she married Thomas Hull:-

1881 census transcription details for: 53, Lauderdale St, Preston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4239
Folio: 13
Page: 21
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: St John
Parish: Preston
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 53, Lauderdale St, Preston
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

MIDDLETON, Samuel Head Married M 53 1828 Coachman Domestic Serv
Sheffield, Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Hannah Daughter Single F 20 1861
Chester, Cheshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
MIDDLETON, John Henry Son Single M 16 1865 Lithographic Printer
Lpool, Lancashire
MIDDLETON, Samuel Son Single M 14 1867 Errand Boy
Lpool, Lancashire
THACKERAY, M Boarder Single M 21 1860 Mechanical Engineer Draughtsman (Hm)
Stalybridge, Lancashire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jan 2013 22:43

Possible for Hannah in 1871:-

1871 census transcription details for: Thirlmere Road, Everton, Liverpool

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3820
Folio: 92
Page: 19
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District: 69
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool

Address: Thirlmere Road, Everton, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MIDDLETON, Saml Head M 45 1826 Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Deborah Wife F 33 1838 Cumberland
MIDDLETON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 11 1860 Lancashire
MIDDLETON, Hannah Daughter F 9 1862 Cheshire<<<<<<<<<<
MIDDLETON, Mary E Daughter F 7 1864 Lancashire
MIDDLETON, Jno Hy Son M 5 1866 Lancashire
MIDDLETON, Saml Son M 3 1868 Lancashire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jan 2013 22:47

Possible for Hannah in the 1861 census:-

1861 census transcription details for: Holmes Lane, Litherland

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2726
Folio: 105
Page: 49
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: 5 Litherland
Parish: Litherland
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: Seaforth
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Holmes Lane, Litherland
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

MIDDLETON, Samuel Head Married M 34 1827 Gentleman Servant
Sheffield, Yorkshire
MIDDLETON, Deborah Wife Married F 23 1838
Bassenthwaite, Cumberland
MIDDLETON, Sarah A Daughter F 3 1858
Oldham, Lancashire
MIDDLETON, Hannah Daughter F 0 (10M) 1861
Chester City<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
LANCASTER, Michael Lodger Unmarried M 20 1841 Letter Carrier
Keswick, Cumberland

Kath. x

Karen

Karen Report 2 Jan 2013 22:56

This is all fabulous but, Thomas Hull and Irene mcateer had children in the 1940s So I was thinking That Hannah and her husband would be around 1910-1920? Does that make sense, Karen x

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 2 Jan 2013 23:02

Karen, if your Thomas is the one shown on the census info above that would make him aged 55 when he married Irene and 71 when his last child was born.

I think you need to buy his marriage cert to check his age & his father's name and occupation.

Karen

Karen Report 2 Jan 2013 23:12

I think I do. Im doing this family tree for a friend. A bit adventurous for me. but ill have a go. thankyou. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 3 Jan 2013 00:14

The marriage certificate would definitely be the way to go but quite possible for a man to have a child when he ws aged 71.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 3 Jan 2013 00:23

Is this "your" Thomas and Irene's marriage:-


Name: MCATEER, Irene
Registration district: Preston
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Hull
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 1037

Name: HULL, Thomas G
Registration district: Preston
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Mcateer
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 1037

If this is the marriage then Thomas has a middle initial. Could this be his birth (in which case all of the above information is probably wrong):-


Name: HULL, Thomas G
Registration district: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 422

This looks like Thomas G. Hull in the 1911 census:-

1911 census transcription details for: 91 Abbot St Everton Liverpool

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN22494 RG78PN1324 RD455 SD7 ED11 SN134
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: North Everton
Parish: Everton
Enum. District: 11

Address: 91 Abbot St Everton Liverpool
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HULL, Thomas George Head Married M 29 1882 Pavior's Labourer Engineers Dept Lancs Liverpool
HULL, Janet Louisa Wife Married 5 years F 31 1880 Lancs Liverpool
HULL, Herbert W C Son M 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool
HULL, Thomas George Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Lancs Liverpool<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On this record Thomas's mother is NOT called Hannah.

Where did you get Thomas's mother's name from?

You really do need the marriage certificate before you go any further.

Kath. x