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Karen
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2 Jan 2013 22:22 |
thomas hull was married to irene mcateer 1942 in Preston. I know that Thomas mother was named Hannah, born in Chester? I dont have any other information. Hannah is on her own (i think) in 1901. I also think that she had another child John but unsure of this. Please help. x :-)
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Karen
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2 Jan 2013 22:24 |
I know of Thomas and Irenes children. Its Thomas ancestors i need help with, Thanks
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2 Jan 2013 22:25 |
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Hannah Hull England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: Chester,? Cheshire census: 1911 Preston,? Preston,? Lancashire,? England name: Hannah Hull event: Census event date: 1911 gender: Female age: 49 birthplace: Chester, Cheshire record type: Household registration district: Preston sub-district: West Preston parish: Preston county: Lancashire
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2 Jan 2013 22:25 |
Hannah Hull England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1862 Chester,? Chester census: 31 Mar 1901 Preston,? Lancashire,? England name: Hannah Hull event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Female age: 39 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Chester, Chester record type: Household registration district: Preston sub-district: St John ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church civil parish: Preston county: Lancashire
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Vera
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2 Jan 2013 22:26 |
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any good? Condition / Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image HULL, Hannah Head Widow F 49 1862 Shopkeeper Off - Licence Grocery Chester Cheshire VIEW HULL, Thomas Son Single M 24 1887 Colliery Agent Preston Lanc VIEW HULL, Mabel Daughter Single F 22 1889 Preston Lanc VIEW HULL, John Son Single M 20 1891 Clerk In Coal Office Assisting Brother Preston Lanc VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 25315 Reference: RG14PN25315 RG78PN1448 RD476 SD4 ED12 SN500 Registration District: Preston Sub District: West Preston Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Preston Address: 1 and 2 Euston Street Preston
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2 Jan 2013 22:28 |
1891 Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where born Image HULL, Thomas Head Married M 30 1861 Bread Baker Preston, Lancashire VIEW HULL, Hannah Wife Married F 30 1861 Preston, Lancashire VIEW HULL, Thomas Son M 4 1887 Preston, Lancashire VIEW HULL, Mabel Daughter F 2 1889 Preston, Lancashire VIEW HULL, Jack Son M 0 (7M) 1891 Preston, Lancashire VIEW MIDDLETON, Samuel Father In Law Married M 63 1828 Coachman Domestic Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW Piece: 3441 Folio: 31 Page: 12 Registration District: Preston Civil Parish: Preston Municipal Borough: Preston Address: 2, Lythgoe Place, Preston County: Lancashire
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2 Jan 2013 22:31 |
Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hull Thomas Preston 8e 782b Middleton Hannah Preston 8e 782b
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KathleenBell
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2 Jan 2013 22:34 |
Thomas Hull in 1881 before he married Hannah:-
1881 census transcription details for: 18, Grimshaw St, Preston
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 4227 Folio: 80 Page: 27 Reg. District: Preston Sub District: Trinity Parish: Preston Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 18, Grimshaw St, Preston County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HULL, Martha Head Widow F 59 1822 Bread Baker Appleton, Cheshire HULL, Martha J Daughter Single F 28 1853 Bread Baker Asst Lancaster Preston, Lancashire HULL, Anne Daughter Single F 22 1859 Bread Baker Asst Lancaster Preston, Lancashire HULL, Thomas Son Single M 20 1861 Bread Baker Asst Lancaster Preston, Lancashire HULL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 19 1862 Dress Maker Lancaster Preston, Lancashire HULL, Ellen Daughter Single F 17 1864 Dress Maker Lancaster Preston, Lancashire SPITT, Arthur Hy Visitor Single M 8 1873 Scholar Lancaster Preston, Lancashire SPITT, Ann Visitor Single F 6 1875 Scholar Lancaster Preston, Lancashire BANISTER, Thomas Boarder Single M 21 1860 Coal Agent Lancaster Preston, Lancashire Kath. x
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2 Jan 2013 22:34 |
Possible death Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hull Thomas 37 Preston 8e 426
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KathleenBell
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2 Jan 2013 22:36 |
1871 census:-
1871 census transcription details for: Church Street, Preston
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 4212 Folio: 42 Page: 12 Reg. District: Preston Sub District: Preston Parish: Preston Enum. District: 63 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Preston
Address: Church Street, Preston County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HULL, Thomas Head M 53 1818 Lancashire HULL, Martha Wife F 49 1822 Cheshire HULL, Mary Daughter F 20 1851 Lancashire HULL, Martha Jane Daughter F 18 1853 Lancashire HULL, Eliza Daughter F 15 1856 Lancashire HULL, Ann Daughter F 13 1858 Lancashire HULL, Thomas Son M 10 1861 Lancashire HULL, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1862 Lancashire HULL, Ellen Daughter F 7 1864 Lancashire
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KathleenBell
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2 Jan 2013 22:38 |
1861 census transcription details for: 42, Church Street, Preston
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3138 Folio: 65 Page: 27 Reg. District: Preston Sub District: 2 Preston Parish: Preston Enum. District: 55 Ecclesiastical District: St Johns City/Municipal Borough: Preston
Address: 42, Church Street, Preston County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HULL, Thomas Head Married M 42 1819 Provision Dealer Employing 2 Men Chorley, Lancashire HULL, Martha Wife Married F 39 1822 Provision Dealers Wife Appleton, Cheshire HULL, Mary Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Kirkdale HULL, Martha Jane Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Preston, Lancashire HULL, Eliza Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Preston, Lancashire HULL, Ann Daughter F 2 1859 Preston, Lancashire HULL, Thomas Son M 0 (9M) 1861 Preston, Lancashire
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Karen
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2 Jan 2013 22:39 |
Thankyou, sorry im a bit vague im still learning. Im not very fast either. please bare with me I cant believe you are all so quick. Thankyou so much im checking,,,, may take a while. x
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KathleenBell
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2 Jan 2013 22:41 |
Possible for Hannah in the 1881 census before she married Thomas Hull:-
1881 census transcription details for: 53, Lauderdale St, Preston
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 4239 Folio: 13 Page: 21 Reg. District: Preston Sub District: St John Parish: Preston Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 53, Lauderdale St, Preston County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MIDDLETON, Samuel Head Married M 53 1828 Coachman Domestic Serv Sheffield, Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Hannah Daughter Single F 20 1861 Chester, Cheshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< MIDDLETON, John Henry Son Single M 16 1865 Lithographic Printer Lpool, Lancashire MIDDLETON, Samuel Son Single M 14 1867 Errand Boy Lpool, Lancashire THACKERAY, M Boarder Single M 21 1860 Mechanical Engineer Draughtsman (Hm) Stalybridge, Lancashire
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KathleenBell
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2 Jan 2013 22:43 |
Possible for Hannah in 1871:-
1871 census transcription details for: Thirlmere Road, Everton, Liverpool
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3820 Folio: 92 Page: 19 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: Everton Parish: Everton Enum. District: 69 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: Thirlmere Road, Everton, Liverpool County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MIDDLETON, Saml Head M 45 1826 Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Deborah Wife F 33 1838 Cumberland MIDDLETON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 11 1860 Lancashire MIDDLETON, Hannah Daughter F 9 1862 Cheshire<<<<<<<<<< MIDDLETON, Mary E Daughter F 7 1864 Lancashire MIDDLETON, Jno Hy Son M 5 1866 Lancashire MIDDLETON, Saml Son M 3 1868 Lancashire
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KathleenBell
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2 Jan 2013 22:47 |
Possible for Hannah in the 1861 census:-
1861 census transcription details for: Holmes Lane, Litherland
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 2726 Folio: 105 Page: 49 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: 5 Litherland Parish: Litherland Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: Seaforth City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Holmes Lane, Litherland County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MIDDLETON, Samuel Head Married M 34 1827 Gentleman Servant Sheffield, Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Deborah Wife Married F 23 1838 Bassenthwaite, Cumberland MIDDLETON, Sarah A Daughter F 3 1858 Oldham, Lancashire MIDDLETON, Hannah Daughter F 0 (10M) 1861 Chester City<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< LANCASTER, Michael Lodger Unmarried M 20 1841 Letter Carrier Keswick, Cumberland
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Karen
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2 Jan 2013 22:56 |
This is all fabulous but, Thomas Hull and Irene mcateer had children in the 1940s So I was thinking That Hannah and her husband would be around 1910-1920? Does that make sense, Karen x
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2 Jan 2013 23:02 |
Karen, if your Thomas is the one shown on the census info above that would make him aged 55 when he married Irene and 71 when his last child was born.
I think you need to buy his marriage cert to check his age & his father's name and occupation.
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Karen
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2 Jan 2013 23:12 |
I think I do. Im doing this family tree for a friend. A bit adventurous for me. but ill have a go. thankyou. x
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KathleenBell
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3 Jan 2013 00:14 |
The marriage certificate would definitely be the way to go but quite possible for a man to have a child when he ws aged 71.
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KathleenBell
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3 Jan 2013 00:23 |
Is this "your" Thomas and Irene's marriage:-
Name: MCATEER, Irene Registration district: Preston County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1942 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name: Hull Volume no: 8E Page no: 1037
Name: HULL, Thomas G Registration district: Preston County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1942 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name: Mcateer Volume no: 8E Page no: 1037
If this is the marriage then Thomas has a middle initial. Could this be his birth (in which case all of the above information is probably wrong):-
Name: HULL, Thomas G Registration district: West Derby County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1911 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 8B Page no: 422
This looks like Thomas G. Hull in the 1911 census:-
1911 census transcription details for: 91 Abbot St Everton Liverpool
National Archive Reference: RG14PN22494 RG78PN1324 RD455 SD7 ED11 SN134 Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: North Everton Parish: Everton Enum. District: 11
Address: 91 Abbot St Everton Liverpool County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HULL, Thomas George Head Married M 29 1882 Pavior's Labourer Engineers Dept Lancs Liverpool HULL, Janet Louisa Wife Married 5 years F 31 1880 Lancs Liverpool HULL, Herbert W C Son M 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool HULL, Thomas George Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Lancs Liverpool<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On this record Thomas's mother is NOT called Hannah.
Where did you get Thomas's mother's name from?
You really do need the marriage certificate before you go any further.
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