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3 Jan 2013 17:19 |
Please can anyone help? I have Thomas HARVEY married 11 June 1861 All Saints, Newchurch I.O.W full age, bachelor, seaman, father Thomas HARVEY a carpenter. I cant see Thomas Jn in the 1851 census he was possibly at sea, I have a report on his death, 13.07.1870
“ Thomas Harvey late quartermaster on board The Endymion, who died from brain fever, between Auckland and Japan, in February, the officers and men subscribed the handsome sum of over £77 for his widow. An officer on board proceeded to Newport, Isle of Wight, for the purpose of presenting the money …..”
[ In 1870, £77. 0. would have the same spending worth of 2005's £3,518.90] I haven’t been able to find out his age
Thank you. Ann E
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3 Jan 2013 18:16 |
When was he born and where. What was his wifes name?
There is this one?
1851 England Census about Thomas Harvey Name: Thomas Harvey Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Harvey Mother's Name: Jane Harvey Gender: M (Male) Where born: Ryde I W, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Ryde Holy Trinity Town: Ryde County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Piece: 1664 Folio: 69 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Harvey 38 Jane Harvey 33 Janes Harvey 9 Thomas Harvey 7 Sarah Harvey 5 George Harvey 3 William Harvey 1 Edward Harvey 4 Mo
1861 England Census about Thomas Harvey Name: Thomas Harvey Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Harvey Mother's Name: Jane Harvey Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Wight, Ryde, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Ryde County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Piece: 658 Folio: 26 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Harvey 49 <<Coal merchant Jane Harvey 44 Jane Harvey 19 Thomas Harvey 17 <<<<<<Mariner George Harvey 14 William Harvey 12 Edward Harvey 10 Lewis Harvey 7 Augustus Harvey 5 Catherine Harvey 1 The address is Moukton or Monkton St?
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brummiejan
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3 Jan 2013 18:25 |
This Thomas is a joiner, no idea if connected:
1841 England Census
Name: Thos Harvey Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Hundred: Isle of Wight Division West Medina Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde
Thos Harvey 25 Jane Harvey 20 James Patch 50
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Chris Ho :)
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3 Jan 2013 18:27 |
1840 HARVEY Thomas PHILLIPS Jane George Street Independent Chapel, Ryde
1843 HARVEY Thomas PHILLIPS Ryde
(above Birth and Marriage on below link)
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/bmd/startbmd.htm
Chris :)
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Ann
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3 Jan 2013 23:04 |
Thank you Gins, brummieian Chris for helping, I don’t know where & when Thomas was born, His wife was Sarah nee Bricknell, was born Southsea c1823 lived in Newport 1841 with parents, 1851 servant Newport, 1861 servant Ryde, she married 11 June 1861 All Saints, New church [Ryde], 1870, Thomas Harvey late quartermaster died Feb, 1871 Sarah in Carisbrooke with 3 daughters, a widow, that is all I have on him. The Thomas Harvey 49 Coal merchant with son Thomas 17 a Mariner,he later took over the coal business, so we can discount him, I have found this in the newspapers “Harvey-Perkins- on Tuesday last, at the Independent Chapel, Node Hill, Isle of Wight, Mr Thomas Harvey, Carpenter, to Miss Perkins, Milliner, and High Street.” I don’t know if this his father? 2nd Marriage?? I think Thomas would have been on the IOW in 1841, unless he was much older than his wife? Thanks, Ann
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4 Jan 2013 11:19 |
Hi Found on Family Search. Thomas Harvey 29 Aug 1813 baptism NODE HILL-INDEP ,Newport, Hants, birth 08 Mar 1813 father Thomas Harvey mother Ann
Thomas Harvey 09 Nov 1828 baptism Godshill (near Newport), Hants, 22 Oct 1828 father Thomas Harvey mother Hannah Also found two Thomas Harvey one 28 other 15 in 1841 census Carisbrooke, could this be my Thomas & his father the Carpenter??? Please can some one have a look :-)
Ann
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brummiejan
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4 Jan 2013 11:41 |
Can I just ask how old Thomas was on the marriage cert? Apologies if you have put it already!
The Thomas below is a carpenter, but no sign of other family:
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Harvey Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: Carisbrooke Hundred: Isle of Wight Division West Medina Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Newport
Thomas Harvey 28 Martha Worys 75
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4 Jan 2013 11:43 |
ADDED wife Ann is a milliner!
1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Harvey carpenter/joiner Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Harvey Gender: M (Male) Where born: Newport, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Newport County/Island: Hampshire
Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Newport Thomas Harvey 38 Ann Harvey 40 Henry Harvey 7 Eliza A Perkins 17 Malke Brading 11
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brummiejan
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4 Jan 2013 11:50 |
The Eliza Perkins 1851 is a niece, so I am guessing this is the marriage:
Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%) Ballard William Wight I. 8 435 Birt Esther Elizabeth I of Wight 8 435 Harvey Thomas I of Wight 8 435 Holland Ruth Wight I 8 435 Long James I of Wight 8 435 Mitchell Charlotte I of Wight 8 435 Perkins Ann I of Wight 8 435 Stark William Isle of Wight 8 435
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4 Jan 2013 11:56 |
I did wonder if your Thomas might possibly have been a Perkins at birth, but I suspect this is Ann:
1841 England Census Name: Ann Perkins (occ???---maker) Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: Whippingham Hundred: Isle of Wight Division East Medina Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Cowes
Fanny Perkins 70 Ann Perkins 30 Susanna Perkins 25 Sarah Perkins 25
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brummiejan
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4 Jan 2013 12:11 |
The other Thomas you asked about was a prisoner! in Parkhurst! Born out of county. Looking at image it looks like Hardy not Harvey.
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Harvey Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Civil parish: Carisbrooke Hundred: Isle of Wight Division West Medina Liberty County/Island: Hampshire
Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Newport
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4 Jan 2013 12:19 |
Thank you very much Jan, Thomas was full age when he married in 1861. The census & marriage look to be the man I am after, I wonder where his son Thomas was in 1841? He would have been about 15 [if it is the right one] he could he have been in the Navy by then ? but family Search have one in the 1841 census, may be it is not him.:-S
Ann
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4 Jan 2013 12:35 |
The problem is, you have no idea where he was born. There can't be too many Thomas Harvey's around with occupation carpenter though I suppose. Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert please, and do you have any kind of residence for him? Jan
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4 Jan 2013 12:37 |
Thank you Jan, he must have been in the navy. Our messages crossed. One other problem I have is finding Thomas married daughter, I found this on An….. 1911 census NAME: Emma Ada Toogood BIRTH: abt 1871 - city, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom RESIDENCE: date - city, Hampshire, England But can’t find her on Family search or Genes R!
Thanks, Ann
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brummiejan
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4 Jan 2013 12:50 |
Here is the Ancestry transcription for Emma, not sure if you have it??
1911 England Census
Name: Emma Ada Toogood Age in 1911: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Newport, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom Civil parish: Ryde County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Hafod, Queens Road, Ryde, I Of W Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Cook Registration district: Isle of Wight
Jane Elizabeth Watkins 67 Emma Ada Toogood 40 Hannah Taeger 26
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Jan 2013 12:51 |
Torgord Emma Ada 1871 Newport I Of W Isle Of Wight
(might be above on Genes Ann!)
1902 TOOGOOD Charles Edwqrd HARVEY Emma Ada St Helen, St Helens
(Marriage from IOW link, posted earlier)
Chris :)
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brummiejan
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4 Jan 2013 12:56 |
Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert?
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Ann
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4 Jan 2013 13:58 |
Thank you very much Jan that is wonderful. Thomas marriage 11 June 1861 All Saints, Newchurch by banns Sarah BICKNELL F/A spinster--------- Ryde father Thomas Bricknell carpenter Thomas HARVEY F/A bachelor seaman Ryde father Thomas HARVEY carpenter Witnesses Tho WHITE Emma Bartett
I will look & see if I can find anything on the witnesses, also I will look in “London Gazette” to see if I can find anything on Thomas navy promotion Thank you Chris Emma Ada Harvey married Charles 1902 June ¼. I haven’t yet sent for their marriage cert, hope to do so soon he died Dec ¼ 1902 I have his burial. Thanks again, :-) Ann
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4 Jan 2013 14:21 |
I wonder if Emma was Bartlett?? Bear with me:
1861 England Census Name: Emma Bartlett Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Eliza Bartlett Gender: Female Where born: Isle of Wight, Ryde Civil parish: Newchurch Town: Ryde County/Island: Hampshire Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Eliza Bartlett 53 Emma Bartlett 20 Frederick Bartlett 19 William Woolgar 8
1841 England Census about Eliza Bartlett Name: Eliza Bartlett Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Hundred: Isle of Wight Division West Medina Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde
William Bartlett 30 Eliza Bartlett 30 Thomas Harvey 7 Edward Harvey 5 Emma Harvey 2
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4 Jan 2013 14:26 |
Must be related surely???
groom's name: William Bartlett bride's name: Eliza Harvey
marriage date: 29 May 1840 marriage place: Newchurch, Hampshire, England groom's father's name: William Bartlett groom's mother's name: bride's father's name: William Harvey bride's previous husband's name: indexing project (batch) number: M39392-5 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1470879 reference number: 2:3GDWMDR
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