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1891 Census look-up please

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Jan 2013 19:48

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1317162

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2013 19:26

Hi MarieCeleste, I googled his name Gareth C.H.Harding born 1942 and it came up.
Profile of Gareth Harding. Very Interesting, he did well. what's the odds of another Gareth C.H.Harding born 1942 (birth date given). He must now be 70 and retired. He was a Marine Biologist working at Dept Of Fisheries & Oceans Dartmouth, Canada.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 19:13

Sylvia, I'm afraid the baptisms only go up to 1906.

Where did you get "Marine Research Scientist in Canada. Profile birth given. "

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2013 19:06

Is it possible for sks to search for a baptism of Gareth C.H.Harding born Sept. Qtr 1942 Reg.Islington please.
Father :- Laurence Harding - Mother - Frances M. Bothwell-Botton
If I can identify correct Birth date without Birth Cert I may have found him.
Marine Research Scientist in Canada. Profile birth given.
Many thanks for help given. Sylvia

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2013 15:47

Hi, No I am afraid I don't. Have only yesterday heard about Annie leaving Henry from another Genes researcher so it is all new to me. Have just sent for D/Cert as I am curious to know where he was living and who registered Death as he did have a sister also Annie who married Harry England living Kensington on 1911 Census.
Would very much like to know what happened to Laurence after Father died. I found a Marriage of a Laurence Harry Harding Dec.1941 at Kensington to a Frances M. Bothwell-Botten and a son born - - Mother Bothwell-Botton. This is from Freebmd so do not know if there were any more children. Any help to further research with these appreciated.
Removed name of son - could be living, but it is easy to find him on Freebmd.
My own son's birth is on there so all this living persons data is a bit of a nonsense.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 15:24

Sylvia, do you know what the middle initials stood for in the girls' names?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1913
Buffy Jean E Charman Richmond S. 2a 992

Births Sep 1914
Buffy Winifred V Charman Richmond S. 2a 1083

That info, plus their exact dates of birth may help track them.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2013 15:08

Thanks GlitterBaby, Wonder why it is twice. Might be worth me getting Henry's Death/Cert.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Jan 2013 14:02

Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
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BUFFY Edmond F Harding Richmond S. 2a 1432
BUFFY Edmond F Charman Richmond S. 2a 1432
CHARMAN Annie L Buffy Richmond Sry 2a 1432
HARDING Annie L Buffy Richmond S. 2a 1432
MCCARTHY Rose Quinnell Richmond S. 2a 1432
QUINNELL John McCarthy Richmond S 2a 1432


Both names shown on the index - Harding and Charman

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2013 08:02

Thanks patchem, It was through contacting one that I learnt that Henry had died and info. on Music Hall connection.
Looking for info. now as to where Annie (stage name Nancy) Edmond and children went. Does not seem to have any marriages on Freebmd for Jean Buffy b.1913 or
Winifred Buffy b.1914 and did Mother Annie take Laurence with her as he was only 8 when Father Henry died.It seems Annie married Edmond in her maiden name of Charman not Harding, but that was not until 1922.
Any help appreciated.
Sylvia

patchem

patchem Report 4 Jan 2013 06:11


Born 25th November 1905, father a clerk, living at 23 Mostyn Gardens, Kendal Rise,
Lawrence Harry Harding
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Mar 1906
Father's Name: Harry Harding
Mother's Name: Annie Harding
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Peter
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

He is in the trees of 2 people on here. Have you contacted them/ (One of them is a Charman).

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 3 Jan 2013 23:13

Thanks everyone, good work. Have just learnt that Annie Charman sang with Brother - Jack Charman famous Music Hall singer.
Annie married Henry Washington Harding (my connection) but Henry died 1914.
Annie remarried Edmond Buffy 1922.
Would dearly like to know what happened to son Laurence as his mother had two daughters by Edmond 1913 & 1914. before Henry died.
Is there any way I could find out if they were divorced.

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 3 Jan 2013 23:13

Thanks everyone, good work. Have just learnt that Annie Charman sang with Brother - Jack Charman famous Music Hall singer.
Annie married Henry Washington Harding (my connection) but Henry died 1914.
Annie remarried Edmond Buffy 1922.
Would dearly like to know what happened to son Laurence as his mother had two daughters by Edmond 1913 & 1914. before Henry died.
Is there any way I could find out if they were divorced.

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Jan 2013 23:02

1861 census transcription details for: Prospect Place, Llanelly
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4113
Folio: 66
Page: 14
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: 2 Llanelly
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Prospect Place, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JONES, Alfred H Head Married M 24 1837 Compositor Journeyman
Newport, Monmouthshire
JONES, Mary L Wife Married F 23 1838 Dressmaker
Bristol, Gloucestershire
>>JONES, Mary Jane Daughter F 1 1860
Bristol, Gloucestershire



1871 census transcription details for: Norfolk Terrace, Kensington
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 44
Folio: 75
Page: 55
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington Town
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 36
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Norfolk Terrace, Kensington
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
JONES, Alfred L Head M 35 1836 compositor Newport Monmouthshire
JONES, Mary L Wife F 33 1838 Bristol Somerset
>>JONES, Mary I W Daughter F 11 1860 Bristol Somerset
JONES, Annie Daughter F 9 1862 Not Known
JONES, Alfred L Son M 7 1864 Monmouthshire
JONES, Edmund Son M 3 1868 Gloucestershire
JONES, William H Son M 0 1871 Surrey

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Jan 2013 22:53

1881 census transcription details for: 85, Boston Pl, St Marylebone
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 155
Folio: 103
Page: 9
Reg. District: Marylebone
Sub District: Christchurch
Parish: St Marylebone
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 85, Boston Pl, St Marylebone
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHARMAN, James Head Widower M 62 1819 Working Gardener
Tillington, Sussex
CHARMAN, John Son Single M 22 1859 Bricklayers Laborer
St Johns Wood, Middlesex
THOMPSON, Alfred S Lodger Single M 36 1845 Wood Turner (Out Of Employ)
Marylebone, Middlesex



1881 census transcription details for: 5, Manchester St, St Marylebone
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 143
Folio: 23
Page: 38
Reg. District: Marylebone
Sub District: Rectory
Parish: St Marylebone
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Manchester St, St Marylebone
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BRICKNELL, Mary Head Single F 29 1852 Lodging House Keeper
Somerset
HOGARTH, Helen Boarder Widow F 59 1822 Annuitant
Woodford, Essex
WHEELER, Edward V Boarder Single M 22 1859 Law Student
Tenbury, Worcestershire
PILKINGTON, Ernest Boarder Single M 22 1859 Architectural Studt
Wakefield, Yorkshire
ROSS, Caroline M Boarder Single F 43 1838 Annuitant
Oxford, Oxfordshire
BIGNELL, Emily Lodger Single F 26 1855 Ladies Maid

HORTON, John Lodger Single M 30 1851 Valet
Willingham, Lincolnshire
>>JONES, Winifred Servant Single F 21 1860 Gen Serv
Bristol, Gloucestershire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jan 2013 22:51

1911 ?
Name: Henry Harding
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: North Kensington
Civil parish: Willesden
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 103 Chamberlayne Wood Rd, Kensal Rise W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Railway Clerk
Registration district: Willesden
Registration District Number: 129
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 448
Piece: 7005
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Harding 26
Annie Harding 26
Laurence Harding 5

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Jan 2013 22:49

Parents' marriage?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Charman
Name: John Charman, bricklayer of 85 Boston Place
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Mary Jane Winifred Jones, 102 Boston Place
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Sep 1882
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: James Charman, gardener
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Llewellyn Jones, printer's compositor
Register Type: Parish Register


W A Jones and A Jones were witnesses.

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Jan 2013 22:44

1901 census transcription details for: 13, Macroon Road, Paddington
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 7
Folio: 23
Page: 38
Reg. District: Paddington
Sub District: St Mary Paddington
Parish: Paddington
Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: St Simon
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 13, Macroon Road, Paddington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHARMAN, John Head Married M 42 1859 Electrician
Marylebone, London
CHARMAN, Winifred Wife Married F 41 1860
Bristol, Gloucestershire
CHARMAN, Annie Daughter Single F 16 1885
Marylebone, London
CHARMAN, John L Son M 13 1888
Paddington, London


1891 census transcription details for: 6, Mozart Street, Paddington
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 9
Folio: 74
Page: 78
Reg. District: Paddington
Sub District: St Mary Paddington
Parish: Paddington
Enum. District: 31
Ecclesiastical District: St Jude
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Mozart Street, Paddington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHARMAN, Jno Head Married M 31 1860 Wireman
Marylebone, London
CHARMAN, Winifred Wife Married F 31 1860
Bristol, Gloucestershire
CHARMAN, Annie Daughter F 6 1885
Marylebone, London
CHARMAN, Jabin Son M 4 1887
Paddington, London

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jan 2013 22:43

Name: Annie Lewis Charman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Henry Washington Harding - clerk
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Nov 1904
Parish: Kensington St Helen
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: John Charman - electrician
Spouse Father Name: Henry Harding
Register Type: Parish Register




Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Harding Henry Washington Kensington 1a 32

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jan 2013 22:41

How have you arrived at her name ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jan 2013 22:38

Name: John Lewis Charman
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1887
Father's Name: John Charman
Mother's Name: Winifred Charman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington Emmanuel
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

29 Portmale Rd. John is a fireman