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John Longstaff or Langstaff

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artist

artist Report 4 Jan 2013 19:44

I have my Great Grandfathers details and some of my Great
grandmothers as follows
John Langstaff born 1826 -1879
Elizabeth surname unknown born in Durham 1829 need her surname
They married about 1845 in Hartlepool Ihave the record numbers which are
10a & 141 but dont seem to get any info
Can anybody help

IRIS

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 19:56

Hello Iris - have you looked that marriage up on FreeBMD?

EDIT:
These are the only marriages coming up with that reference and the years are wrong (and neither has an Elizabeth listed):

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1868
LONGSTAFF John Hartlepool 10a 141

Marriages Sep 1879
LONGSTAFF Thomas Hartlepool 10a 141

Where did you get those references?

Can you gives some further details like who their children were and do you have them on any census.

Mike *

Mike * Report 4 Jan 2013 20:06

Hartlepool district only began in 1859

are you sure you have the right year ?

Before that it would come under Stockton

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Jan 2013 21:22

1851 is this the right couple ??

Name: John Langstaff
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellizth Langstaff
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Andrews

Civil parish: Wingate
Ecclesiastical parish: Wingate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Piece: 2392
Folio: 101
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Langstaff 25
Ellizth Langstaff 22
John Langstaff 4
William Langstaff 2

safc

safc Report 4 Jan 2013 21:33

????

Search Results From Marriages 1841 to 1850

Details of your chosen Marriage certificate (including spouse) are as follows:

Surname Forename(s) Year District
92% LANGSTAFF John N 1846 Durham Northern
92% WILSON Elizabeth 1846 Durham Northern

http://nd.durham.gov.uk/gro/newgro.nsf/search?open&C0777965040104012013$

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Jan 2013 21:34

Could do with some more info on this one

safc

safc Report 4 Jan 2013 21:36

groom's name: John Nurrick Langstaff
groom's birth date: 1826
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Elizabeth Wilson
bride's birth date: 1828
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 18
marriage date: 08 Nov 1846
marriage place: Lanchester, Durham, England
groom's father's name: John Langstaff
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Wilson
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I00470-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885565
reference number: 97

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Jan 2013 21:41

Have come across Iris' tree on Ancestry and the 1851 that GB posted is the one she has attached: (I'll delete mine)

Parents listed as John Langstaff 1809 - 1877 and Mary Myers 1815 - . Married 1835 in Sedgefield.

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 09:33

I also have looked at the tree on Ancestry.1851 she has the above 1851 census whenJohn is a labourer.

The following census she has
1861 he is a Ships Joiner D9>10Bishop Wearmouth.
also with Elizabeth32 and Elizabeth 6

1871 Ships Joiner Monkwearmouth D6>68
Also with wife Elizabeth and daughter Elizabeth age 6 born 1855.just above Johns entry on original view is a Ann langstaff widow age about 70? and Robert T born 1840
I think she has got the wrong 1851 census.

1851 D4 >36.
John LONGSTAFF a Ships Joiner
Elizabeth
Mary Jane age one month.

A tree on Ancestry has the above John(Ships Joiner) marrying Elizabeth Mackie in 1848.

So we have two John and Elizabeth Longstaffs with daughters Elizabeth born 1855,I think John the ship joiner was born in Sunderland durham.

Maryb.

Edit just been checking again this is the one next door to John in 1871

1841 Monkwearmouth D2 >9
Ann Longsliff 33 widow (Longstaff)
Barbara 11
John 9
Robert 1

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 09:55

So it sounds like the 1851 I posted and deleted may have been the right one!

Seems like things have got in a bit of a muddle but until Iris comes back and says how she got to these people we can't really help sort it out.

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 11:13

John Longstaff 1809 - 1877 married Mary Myers born 1815
They had John Longstaff 1846 - 1877 married in 1868 to Eleanor(Ellen) knox.
had Thomas (Tom) 1874 married Rose Annie Baxtrem.

Iris has Tom 1874,I think she has just got John's date of birth mixed up.

Info off trees on ancestry so please double check.

Maryb.

artist

artist Report 5 Jan 2013 15:32

Thank you all for your help information is as follows

John Longstaff 1809-1877 married Mary Myers
John Longstaff 1826-1877 married Elizabeth WIlson
3children John 1846 william 1849 elizabeth 1855
Married 1846 free durham northern free bmd
tOm is my grandfsther
Ithink this is correct
Iris

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jan 2013 15:39

Mary Myers born 1815 couldn't be John 's mum if he was born 1826!!

Maryb

safc

safc Report 5 Jan 2013 19:30

County Durham
Place Sedgefield
Church St Edmund
RegisterNumber 248
MarriageDate 16 May 1835
GroomForename John
GroomSurname LONGSTAFF
GroomAge
GroomParish Sedgefield
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname MYERS
BrideAge
BrideParish Sedgefield
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname MYERS
WitnessTwoForename Elizabeth Jane
WitnessTwoSurname SEWELL
Notes Additional witnesses George APPLEGARTH, Mary BLACKETT
FileNumber 16968

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 19:45

Iris - who are you working back from?

safc

safc Report 5 Jan 2013 19:54

name: John Newrick Longstaff
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Oct 1826
baptism/christening place: St. Andrew's, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Longstaff
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Longstaff
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02433-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1564924
reference number: item 2 p 85

artist

artist Report 15 Jan 2013 14:05

Thank you for all your help I have been on Ancestry and found some info and have discovered they were married in Sunderland John and Mary Mackie evidently and they had it on the sight so I am now waiting for copy MarriageCertificate to arrive to give info of Parents will keep you informed on the results Iget. As yu said no way could Mary Myers be his mother she would only be 11 years old

Iris

artist

artist Report 17 Jan 2013 12:34

I@have just received a copy of john longstaff and elizabeth mackie marriage certificate a bit confusing they were married in sunderland on 13th August 1848 john was stated at full age and Elizabethmas a minor. he was a Joiner
His father was quoted as William Longstaff a shipwright hers was a Mariner deceased
I dont know what the full age was to get marriedmin1848 I think i have got lost here somehow.

Iris.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jan 2013 19:12

pm from Iris in answer to my query about who she was working back from

"I was working back from my grandfather Tom Langstaff 1874 and grandmother Rose Ann Baxtrem 1877 Married Dec 24 1894 in Eston
yorkshire heworked in Dormanlong steel works no father of tom recorded "

Iris - when you say "no father of Tom recorded" do you mean on a certificate, or someplace else?

Do you have the marriage certificate for Tom and Rose Ann? What does it say for his father on there? Was Tom named as Tom or Thomas?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jan 2013 23:26

Further pm:

"yes I have his marriage certificate 1894 he was a labourer and lived at holden st grangetown parish of Eston Registration district was Middlesborough.His brothers were John Henry 1870 Tom 1874 George1877. His Father was John and Mother Ellen Knox they were married in Hartlepool in 1868 "

Iris - what does it actually say on the certificate itself about his father, that's all I want to know - the facts from the certificate.

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