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MarieCeleste
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5 Jan 2013 13:08 |
Never mind looking back at your typing - why weren't you passing that plate around?
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Frances
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5 Jan 2013 13:01 |
Possibly the phrase is
Delusions of Grandure
Sometimes I look back at my typing.......
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5 Jan 2013 13:00 |
Frances
I hope you were 'stuffing' your face and not 'stiffing' it!
:-D
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5 Jan 2013 12:56 |
Thank you for all that extra info Marie and Gins.
I have to admit to stffing my face with pork pie lettuce and tomato sauce while you have been working so hard lol
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5 Jan 2013 12:55 |
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 Name: Alice Armitage Birth Year: abt 1837 Age: 17 Marriage or Bann Date: 21 Mar 1854 Parish: Birstall, St Peter Father's Name: Abraham Armitage <<Mason Spouse's Name: William Gee <<Miner Spouse's Father's Name: John Gee <<Farmer
I cant imagine the family being connected to Robert, taking into account the occupations/class
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5 Jan 2013 12:47 |
1891 England Census about Caroline K Armitage Name: Caroline K Armitage Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Armitage Gender: Female Where born: France Civil parish: Farnley Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Wortley ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3680 Folio: 26 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Robert Armitage 25 <Barrister Caroline K Armitage 24 John C D Ryder 17 <<BiL Elizabeth Hetherington 73 Annie Jones 19 Annie Fieldhouse 14 Clarissa Rhodes 13
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5 Jan 2013 12:46 |
Frances, I think you may be right about the myth!
Robert's father was from Brighton so unless he had distant family who had moved to West Yorkshire long ago then I don't think there's a connection.
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5 Jan 2013 12:44 |
Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Robert Armitage <<<<Barrister, address Farnley Leeds Name: Robert Armitage Birth Year: abt 1867 Age: 24 Marriage or Bann Date: 8 Jan 1891 Parish: Broadwey Father's Name: William James Armitage <<gent Spouse's Name: Caroline Katherine Ryder Spouse's Father's Name: Dudley Henry Ryder <<gent
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5 Jan 2013 12:39 |
1911 England Census about Robert Armitage Name: Robert Armitage Age in 1911: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Farnley Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Armley and Bramley County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: Farnley Hall Leeds Marital Status: Married Occupation: Master Of Partiamant [Member of Parliament] Registration district: Bramley Registration District Number: 499 Sub-registration district: Wortley ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Piece: 26894 Household Members: Name Age Robert Armitage 45 Caroline Katharine Armitage 44 John Dand Armitage 6 Edward Hugh Armitage 4 Anne Elizabeth Armitage 3 Margaret McKeague 70 Isobella Galpin 67 Mary Farison 49 Jane Brunsdon Francesa Hutchinson 29 Alice Amry Dyer 17 Gerturde Newton 19 Mira Grayson 14
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jan 2013 12:35 |
This is the marriage of Robert's parents:
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: William James Armitage, bachelor. An engineer of 4 Park Place Birth Year: abt 1819 Age: 41 Marriage or Bann Date: 7 Aug 1860 Parish: Roundhay, St John Father's Name: James Armitage - Gentleman Spouse's Name: Emily Nicholson, spinster (24) of Roundhay Spouse's Father's Name: Wm Nicholson Nicholson - Esquire Call Number: P 93/2/2
Witnesses Wm Nicholson Nicholson and Lucy Nicholson
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jan 2013 12:31 |
1871:
ARMITAGE, William J Head M 51 1820 Sussex, Brighton - Ironmaster ARMITAGE, Emily Wife F 35 1836 Yorkshire ARMITAGE, Anne E Daughter F 8 1863 Yorkshire ARMITAGE, Robert Son M 5 1866 Yorkshire ARMITAGE, Alfred Son M 4 1867 Yorkshire ARMITAGE, William J Son M 2 1869 Yorkshire ARMITAGE, Philip Son M 0 1871 Yorkshire WOLTON, Maria Visitor F 22 1849 Suffolk METCALF, Elizabeth Servant F 23 1848 Yorkshire PINDER, Margaret Servant F 42 1829 Yorkshire TEMPREL, Harriet Servant F 38 1833 Yorkshire ODDY, Eliza Servant F 19 1852 Yorkshire DYER, Anna Servant F 16 1855 France NUTTON, Mary Servant F 16 1855 Yorkshire
Piece: 4540 Folio: 22 Page: 2 Registration District: Bramley Civil Parish: Farnley Municipal Borough: Leeds
Address: Farnley Lodge, Farnley, Leeds County: Yorkshire
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Frances
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5 Jan 2013 12:29 |
No wonder I didn't spot his father with him being so much older.
That 1881 census matches the individal entries I found, thankyou.
Thank you for that Find my Past info
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jan 2013 12:27 |
Frances, yes - the above is from FindMyPast. You only need to pay if you want to view the original image.
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5 Jan 2013 12:25 |
About the 1881 for free, do any of the sites give the whole household in the same way as previously?
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5 Jan 2013 12:24 |
Possible 1881, especially as he'd be going to Winchester:
ARMITAGE, William J Head Married M 61 1820 Brighton, Sussex ARMITAGE, Emily Wife Married F 45 1836 Roundhay, Yorkshire ARMITAGE, Robert Son Single M 15 1866 Scholar Farnley, Yorkshire ARMITAGE, Alfred Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Farnley, Yorkshire BRAMLEY, Thomas Servant Married M 47 1834 Butler Domestic Serv Nottingham HARPER, John Servant Single M 17 1864 Footman Domestic Serv Kensington, Middlesex BISHOP, Julia Servant Single F 40 1841 Cook Domestic Serv Pitchcombe, Gloucestershire CLARKE, Annie Servant Single F 39 1842 Housemaid Domestic Serv Tattenhall, Cheshire TEMPRELL, Harriet Servant Single F 48 1833 Ladies Maid Domestic Serv Doncaster COATES, Rosella Servant Single F 23 1858 Under Housemaid Domestic Serv Tyde, Gloucestershire WEST, Kezia Servant Single F 18 1863 Kitchen Maid Domestic Serv Southgate, Middlesex
Piece: 78 Folio: 61 Page: 55 Registration District: Chelsea Civil Parish: Chelsea
Address: Farnley House, Chelsea County: London, Middlesex
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Frances
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5 Jan 2013 12:22 |
MarieCeleste you are correct about the wikipedia link. This was where I found the quote listng Roberts uncles. It states Robert was born in 1866 - sorry I omited that fact
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5 Jan 2013 12:16 |
Frances, how old would you expect Robert to be in 1881?
(You can search 1881 for free on other sites)
EDIT: Think this must be him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Armitage_%28politician%29
Your heading made it look like 1866 was when he would have been mayor.
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Frances
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5 Jan 2013 12:12 |
Just for the challenge!
My neighbour has Alice Armitage 1838 as an ancestor
from 1851 census ARMITAGE, Alice Daughter F 13 1838 Worsted Weaver Drighlington, Yorkshire
The family believes they are related to Robert the mayor of Leeds :-
"He lived at Farnley Hall, Leeds.[5] Armitage was the nephew of Edward Armitage and Thomas Rhodes Armitage, the uncle of Robert Selby Armitage, and second cousin once removed of Edward Leathley Armitage."
I cannot see who was Robert's father in the 1881 census but I think his mother could be Emily. Can any body see any links please as I think it maybe just a family myth !!
Many thanks, Frances
p.s. The old Family Search 1881 census (that I relied on) seems to have disappeared or is it that I just can't see the link?
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