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cliffette

cliffette Report 5 Jan 2013 18:32

Hello Everyone,
Could i please ask for help in trying to find a possible marriage of Benjamin William Ernest Hill b 24th December 1898 St.Saviour, Southwark ( i have cert) he died 19th November 1967 aged 65 in Essex South Western, Essex DOA on arrival at Whipps Cross Hospital, Leytonstone,he lived in Romford ( i have cert). He was the son of John William Aubrey Hill & Harriett Edith Hill nee Butler ( i have marr cert)
On Benjamins death cert its stated that P.O'Brien, Cousin was the informant, but despite lots of help from Genes researchers and letters written on advice from Romford Library i still have'nt managed to find him.
Your help is much appreciated, Thank You

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Witcher-Hants Hill-Wales?Devon? Butler-Barking Appleton-Hants Dunning-Hants Daniels-Norfolk Baum-London

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Jan 2013 18:45

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Benjamin William Ernest Hill
Name: Benjamin William Ernest Hill
Probate Date: 22 Feb 1965
Death Date: 19 Nov 1964
Death Place: Essex, England
Registry: London, England

Estate handled by same person who registered death. Is there any evidence he actually married?

Andy

RamblingRose

RamblingRose Report 5 Jan 2013 18:50

Cliffette, can't see an obvious marriage with full set of initials, what makes you think he married? do you have some other info ?

Researching:
Names: Fishlock, London. Whetman. Keatings from Kerry. The best way of keeping my temper with idiots.

Gins

Gins Report 5 Jan 2013 18:51

cliffette

You now have five threads, relating to this person.

Best to keep your info on just one

Researching:
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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2013 18:53

Here's one of them
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1292507

and
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1284780

Researching:
Current avatar is Marie-Celeste de Villentroy

cliffette

cliffette Report 5 Jan 2013 19:03

Thank you MarieCeleste, and Gins done it again TuT!

Thank you Andrew for the info.

Researching:
Witcher-Hants Hill-Wales?Devon? Butler-Barking Appleton-Hants Dunning-Hants Daniels-Norfolk Baum-London

Dea

Dea Report 5 Jan 2013 19:27

P O'brien is:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Phyllis Ada O'Brien
Name: Phyllis Ada O'Brien
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1916
Date of Registration: Oct 1991
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1901


This would be her birth:

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Phyllis A C Kirby
Name: Phyllis A C Kirby
Mother's Maiden Surname: Butler
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 57 (click to see others on page)

Note mothers maiden name - BUTLER !!

Have to go just now but I am sure you can follow the conection..............

Dea Xxx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jan 2013 22:54

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Phyllis A C Kirby

Name: Phyllis A C Kirby
Spouse Surname: O'brien
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 209

spouse:- Henry W N O'Brien

Researching:
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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jan 2013 22:59

Just for reference


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John William Aubrey Hill

Name: John William Aubrey Hill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Harriett Edith Butler
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 May 1897
Parish: Bermondsey St Paul
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Hill
Spouse Father Name: Edward Clark Butler <<<<<<<<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register




and ??????


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ada Butler

Name: Ada Butler
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 21
Spouse Name: John Kirby
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 May 1902
Parish: Newington Holy Trinity
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Edward Chert Butler
Spouse Father Name: John Kirby
Register Type: Parish Register


The handwriting is very bad on the image, but I think it says Edward Clark Butler

Researching:
Panda, China, 2008 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Jan 2013 23:02

possible ????


1881 Census

Name: Edward C. Butler
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Butler
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Windmill Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Gas Fitter Unemployed

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford

Edward C. Butler 35
Harriet Butler 27
Harriet E. Butler 3 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Alice Butler 1
Ada Butler <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<





so, no evidence Benjamin married, but Phyllis was his cousin!




sylvia

Researching:
Panda, China, 2008 .................................. ............................ .............. .......... .......................................................... To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Dea

Dea Report 6 Jan 2013 08:24

Thank you Sylvia :-)

It would be nice if Cliffette would come back and see this info !

Dea Xxx