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Doris May Lock help please

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TrueBlueAngel

TrueBlueAngel Report 7 Jan 2013 21:04

Sorry for not replying sooner, work commitments and all that. As I privately predicted, father in law is preferring to keep any skeletons in the closet and will not divulge about the mysterious initial on the birth certificate. We know the date of birth, mother's details etc are definite. I've tried to get in touch with a relative on Albert's living sibling in the hope that they may be able to enlighten me or who his father may have been. I fear it may be a lost cause, but I'll keep trying. Thanks for everyone's input on this matter.

Margee

Margee Report 7 Jan 2013 13:58

So Jean was born before marriage?

Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
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LOCK Stephen R Witcomb Warwick 6d 2331
Witcomb Doris M Lock Warwick 6d 2331


Margee

Margee Report 7 Jan 2013 13:45

2 births for Jean Lock with mother's maiden name Witcomb.

Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
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Lock Jean S Witcomb Warwick 6d See S 31

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Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
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Lock Jean S Witcomb Warwick 6d 1256

This entry beside second one:

The above transcription represents what is in the GRO index but it is referred to by the following entry
Births 1931 Jun: Lock,Jean S,Warwick,6d,See S 31
which implies that this is a late entry, that is an entry that has been registered in a quarter later than the event. See here for more information on late entries.


Margee

Margee Report 7 Jan 2013 13:30

Published in the Leamington Spa Courier on 21 December 2012

BONEHAM Albert Lewis 'Lew' Passed away at Warwick Hospital on 10th December 2012, aged 93 years. Loving father of Clifford and loving step-dad of Derek, Jean and Donald. He will be sadly missed by family and friends. The funeral service will take place at Oakley Wood Crematorium, North Chapel on Friday 28th December 2012 at 11.30am. All flowers welcome c/o H.J.Dawson Funeral Directors, 22 George Street, Leamington Spa, CV31 1ET

Mavis

Mavis Report 7 Jan 2013 12:13



I meant the 1 st marriage to Doris Lock - it could have a father even if his mother was'nt married at the time of his birth., he may have known who it was.

have you got confirmation of his birth date from any member of the family ??

otherwise the only other way to confirm it is by getting a copy of his death cert.
which will give the date of birth and place of birth

Mavis

Flip

Flip Report 6 Jan 2013 16:39

MC - I think Mavis means his later marriage?

TBA, you haven't replied to my questions on your other thread - where I was trying to establish the actual evidence you have.

This is copied over from that thread:

"I assume you have the birth certificate for the one detailed above - is this something you have ordered or was it in his papers? What does the P stand for?

Does the family confirm this date of birth or is it taken from the birth certificate? And do you know for sure his place of birth?

If your information has come from the Albert P birth certificate it could be the wrong one. Another possibility is that he was born Albert Lewis, and at some point his mother married or lived with a Boneham and he assumed that name. Or he could have been adopted, and born with a completely different name - this information would not be available online, only the adpotion register would contain any details, although his birth is too early for this.

I'm just trying to establish what hard facts you have."

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2013 15:55

Mavis, where have you picked up a prior marriage for Albert?

Mavis

Mavis Report 6 Jan 2013 15:46



the first marriage may well have some details you could find useful

the witnesses should also help - if family

you can get copies quite easy

Mavis

TrueBlueAngel

TrueBlueAngel Report 6 Jan 2013 11:56

There is no father listed on the birth certificate.

Mavis

Mavis Report 6 Jan 2013 11:44



Copies of either or both his marriages may help with "father " -- witnessess can also be of great help if members of the family

Mavis

TrueBlueAngel

TrueBlueAngel Report 6 Jan 2013 08:38

Yes, Clifford was his only child. Due to a family estrangement, researching this is difficult and its on behalf of Lew's grandchildren, that I'm researching this. They feel they need to understand who they are and where they came from. I was hoping to be able to find Lew's birth father but I doubt we will ever know. Hence why I want to find out his original middle name, hoping it may be a clue to all of this. By Lew's marriage in 1945, he was registered as Lewis and not 'P'.

Flip

Flip Report 5 Jan 2013 23:58

Was Clifford his only child, and have you got his birth certificate to see what his father was calling himself at the time?

Flip

Flip Report 5 Jan 2013 23:45

Sorry TBA, I didn't mean to offend, I just meant his birth just isn't recorded under that name so he doesn't exist in the birth records under that name. I dont doubt he existed, as he obviously did, and I sorry for your recent bereavement.

Maybe he adopted the name, maybe his mother changed his name, but he wasn't born wth that name in England/Wales. Alternatively could he have been born overseas?

Either he was born overseas, or his name is not his original name.

He lived to a great old age of 93, I see from the obit.

TrueBlueAngel

TrueBlueAngel Report 5 Jan 2013 23:26

For a figment of imagination, my family will just imagine Albert Lewis Boneham didnt pass away last month!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 5 Jan 2013 22:35

Oh, well - Doris is sorted, anyway.

Albert looks a bit more tricky.

Ozi

Flip

Flip Report 5 Jan 2013 22:28

Not quite sorted, see other thread Ozibird! Turns out Albert "Lewis" Boneham is the figment of someones imagination.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 5 Jan 2013 22:21

Good to see this sorted. Well done ladies.

Ozi

Flip

Flip Report 5 Jan 2013 22:03

Related thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1317030

TrueBlueAngel

TrueBlueAngel Report 5 Jan 2013 20:32

Thankyou so much. It makes more sense now :-)

Flip

Flip Report 5 Jan 2013 20:26

From CWG site, the death posted by MC

Serjeant Service No:778712 Date of Death:29/05/1942 Regiment/Service:Royal Armoured Corps 10th Royal Hussars Grave Reference4. C. 19.Cemetery KNIGHTSBRIDGE WAR CEMETERY, ACROMA

This is in Libya.