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Edward Foster

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Dawn

Dawn Report 7 Jan 2013 14:08

Born somewhere around 1840 - 1850.
Lived in West Bromwich, Staffs around 1881 & died there in 1912.
The problem is that in 1881, 1891 & 1901 censuses, which all appear to be him, his place of birth was Bradford, West Bromwich & Coventry & his year of birth varied.
His son was Samuel, 1885-1953, born & died in West Bromwich, who married Ada Hackwood 1892-1957, born in Wednesbury, Staffs.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jan 2013 14:17

Hello Dawn and welcome to the boards. Please let us know precisely what you are hoping to find and please and thank you do not go amiss. :-)

So this is definitely him?


1891 census transcription details for: 42, Pudding Bag Street, West Bromwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2271
Folio: 116
Page: 2
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: West Bromwich North East
Parish: West Bromwich
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Pauls
City/Municipal Borough: West Bromwich
Address: 42, Pudding Bag Street, West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FOSTER, Edward Head Widower M 40 1851 General Labourer
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, William A Son M 10 1881 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, Sarah Jane Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, Samuel Son M 6 1885 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
DEAKIN, Arthur Son In Law Married M 28 1863 General Labourer
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
DEAKIN, Mary Ann Daughter Married F 28 1863
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
DEAKIN, Harriet Granddaughter F 0 (3M) 1891
West Bromwich, Staffordshire



1881 census transcription details for: 42, Private House, Pudding Bag St, West Bromwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2849
Folio: 5
Page: 4
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: West Bromwich North-East
Parish: West Bromwich
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 42, Private House, Pudding Bag St, West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FOSTER, Edward Head Married M 29 1852 Laborer In Ironworks
Bradford, Yorkshire
FOSTER, Jane Wife Married F 28 1853
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, Lavinia Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
CORNWELL, Elizabeth Stepdaughter Single F 13 1868 General Servant
Netherton, Staffordshire
CORNWELL, Clara Stepdaughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Netherton, Staffordshire



1901 census transcription details for: 27, Puddingbag Street, West Bromwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2722
Folio: 121
Page: 8
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: West Bromwich North-East
Parish: West Bromwich
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Paul Golds Hill
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 27, Puddingbag Street, West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
RHODES, John W Head Married M 31 1870 Bricklayer's Labourer
W Bromwich, Staffordshire
RHODES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1869
Netherton, Staffordshire
RHODES, Emelia E Daughter Single F 9 1892
W Bromwich, Staffordshire
RHODES, John W Son Single M 7 1894
W Bromwich, Staffordshire
RHODES, Arthur E Son Single M 4 1897
W Bromwich, Staffordshire
RHODES, Annie Daughter Single F 2 1899
W Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, Edward Father-In-Law Widower M 62 1839 Labourer In Iron Foundry
Coventry, Warwickshire
FOSTER, Alfred Brother-In-Law Single M 19 1882
W Bromwich, Staffordshire
FOSTER, Samuel Brother-In-Law Single M 16 1885 Holloware Worker (Casting Saucepans)
W Bromwich, Staffordshire



I see your dilemma in not being able to pin him down to a definite birth certificate.
Perhaps he did not know himself where he was born.

Do you have his MC to Jane Cornwell? Perhaps that would mention a father to help in tying him down.

Is William A from the 1891 census Alfred in 1901?

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jan 2013 15:06

And his death. I know you have all these records but it is helpful to us to be able to see them.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Edward Foster
Name: Edward Foster
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1912
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 895

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jan 2013 15:13

1871??

1871 census transcription details for: Witton's Lane Squares, West Bromwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2984
Folio: 93
Page: 25
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: West Bromwich, North-East
Parish: West Bromwich
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Witton's Lane Squares, West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FOSTER, Edward Head furnace labourer M 26 1845 Kenilworth, Warwickshire
FOSTER, Mary A Wife F 22 1849 Staffordshire
FOSTER, Mary A Daughter F 2 1869 Staffordshire
FOSTER, Martha Daughter F 0 1871 Staffordshire


and marriage for this couple.

>>Record Edward Foster Jan-Feb-Mar 1867 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Order
Record
View Record John Granger Jan-Feb-Mar 1867 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Order
Record
>>View Record Mary Ann Wilkes Jan-Feb-Mar 1867 Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Order
Record
View Record Elizabeth York Jan-Feb-Mar 1867 Wolverhampton Staffordshire


Wife's death?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Foster
Name: Mary Ann Foster
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1873
Age at Death: 25
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 467

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Jan 2013 15:17

Samuel Foster
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1885 W Bromwich, Staffordshire
census 31 Mar 1901 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
nameSamuel Foster
eventCensusevent date31 Mar 1901
genderMale
age16r
elationship to head of household
Brother-In-Law
birthplaceW Bromwich, Staffordshire
record typeHouseholdregistration districtWest Bromwichsub-districtWest Bromwich North-Eastecclesiastical parishSt Paul Golds Hillcivil parishWest BromwichcountyStaffordshire

Dawn

Dawn Report 7 Jan 2013 15:41

Thanks for your comments.
As you may gather, I'm trying to get a Birth Cert for Edward, which is difficult with the confusing information as well as getting a Birth Cert for his wife, Jane.
Likewise I can't find a Marriage Cert for Edward & Jane or Jane's death.
According to Samuel's Birth Cert for 1 Jan 1885 at 2 Puddingbag Street (should it be 42 - the same house as for the 1881 census?), his Mother was Jane Foster, late Coleman, formerly Round.
This is ironic as I've gone back at least 3 generations on the rest of my tree!

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Jan 2013 17:44

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
Cornwell Enoch W. Bromwich 6b 899 <<<<<
LONGMORE William West Bromwich 6b 899
Rounds Jane W. Bromwich 6b 899 <<<<<<<
Yardley Louisa W Bromwich 6b 899

as it was an Elizabeth Cornwell who married John Rhodes I think Samuel's birth cert should read mother Foster late Cornwell formerly Rounds

Enoch Cornwell died in 1873

Dawn

Dawn Report 7 Jan 2013 18:46

Thanks, I'll try following it up.

I knew Elizabeth married John Rhodes but hadn't looked up the marriage.

I'm finding it difficult to know which records to trust, especially when there were remarriages (Samuel, Edward's son is believed to have married 3 times - I know he was married at least twice).

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Jan 2013 20:09

Possible death for Jane?

Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: CORNWELL, Jane
Registration district: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1887
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 43
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 516


Possible birth? They all seem to have been a bit creative with their years of birth.

Civil Registration event: Birth
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Name: ROUND, Jane
Registration district: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1845
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: XVIII
Page no: 571


1871 census transcription details for: Raybould's Fold, Dudley
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3016
Folio: 63
Page: 47
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley
Enum. District: 40
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Dudley
Address: Raybould's Fold, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CORNWELL, Enoch Head M 37 1834 Gloucestershire
CORNWELL, Jane Wife F 24 1847 Staffordshire
CORNWELL, Elisabeth Daughter F 3 1868 Worcestershire
CORNWELL, Annie Daughter F 0 1871 Worcestershire

Dawn

Dawn Report 8 Jan 2013 13:47

Thanks very much, alviegal, for Jane's possible birth.

As you say, they can be creative about date of birth in most documents (and place of birth). Sometimes, like with Edward, it's almost as if he's got something to hide!

The death would probably be wrong because Jane would be Jane Foster & would probably still be known as such even if she & Edward hadn't married.