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John Owen Davies

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Mary

Mary Report 7 Jan 2013 19:07

We need some help please with the ancestors of John Owen DAVIES b about 1866.we have his marriage certificate to Ellen Riley 1886 and his merchant naval certificates.in Liverpool. He states his father was THOMAS DAVIES,a canvasser.We have not been able to confirm his birth or find him on a census with father THOMAS,but there is a John Owen Davies with a father WILLIAM ( joiner).This birth certificate gives the mother as Dinah late Bradley formerly Jones.
Family reports claim a Welsh origin,possibly Caernarfon shire as he exported Welsh slate to Australia.
Could anyone dig him out the records please!

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jan 2013 19:22

This has his DOB c 1862


Name: John Coren (OWEN) Davies
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 24
Marriage Date: 2 Dec 1886
Parish: Everton St Chrysostom
Spouse's Name: Ellen Riley
Father's Name: Thomas Davies
Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Riley


possibly one of these ....

Births Dec 1861
DAVIES John Owen Wrexham 11b 277
DAVIES John Owen Cardigan 11b 10

Mary

Mary Report 7 Jan 2013 19:27

Yes and also claims his wife was 20,but the family say she was proud of being only 16. He gives different birth dates on his 3 Mates and Masters certificates.Mary

Gee

Gee Report 7 Jan 2013 19:48

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: John Owen Davies
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1861
Baptism Date: 13 Oct 1861
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's Name: Thomas Davies <<<Grocer?
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Davies

Gee

Gee Report 7 Jan 2013 19:51

1871 England Census
about John O Davies
Name: John O Davies
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Davies
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Davies
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 3819
Folio: 132
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Davies 47 <<<Collectors?
Elizabeth Davies 38
Thomas Davies 16
John O Davies 9
Hugh R Davies 8
Hannah J Davies 3
Owen R Davies 2
Joseph H Davies 1
Hugh Hughes 38


Mary

Mary Report 7 Jan 2013 19:55

Thanks. I am trying to find the relationship to his marriage witness EDWIN DAVIES. I thought a brother or cousin?

Mary

Mary Report 7 Jan 2013 20:02

Many thanks