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hi this is what i know - ellen and her cousin rose were transported to tasmania for larceny trial place co carlow - trial date 20/10/1848-sentence 7 years -ship Maria 2 ,00/03/1849-out of kinston -arrival date 23/7/1849
conduct recoerd:con41/22. Indent:con15/5.
any birth records would be a help c1828 mother mary ,brothers charles and josh?,sisters mary ,biddy,eliza and anne,

thankyou for your assistance :-)

Hello Steven - welcome

I've had no luck here - plenty of Dempsey'sin Co.Carlow but can't find yours - sorry

Steven
I found this not sure if it is your Ellen.
Ellen Dempsey
B.27/04/1928
Roman Catholic,Brosna,Kerry,Ireland
Father John Dempsey
Mother Mary Connor

Found a Ellen Dempsey
Marriage 23/10/1854 Tasmania
Spouse Thomas Travis
who had also gone to Australia as a convict.

Also Death of Ellen Travis
11/06/1882 aged 54 Tasmania.

Steven....The "Trial Place" does not necessarily mean that Ellen came from there...do you have anything to indicate Ellen came from the Co Carlow other than where the trial took place...?
The Maria manifest may give details if your lucky.

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Rose Dempsey
Spouse Name: Thomas Household
Marriage Date: 11 Feb 1854
Marriage Place: Tasmania
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania
Registration Year: 1854
Registration number: 640

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Mary Ann Household
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1854
Father's Name: Thomas Household
Mother's Name: Rosanna Dempsey
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania
Registration number: 625

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Allice Household
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1856
Father's Name: Thomas Household
Mother's Name: Rose Dimsy
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Place: Brighton, Tasmania
Registration number: 108

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Daisy Elizth Brown
Death Place: Elsternwick, Victoria
Age: 77
Father's Name: Thos Household
Mother's Name: Rosanna Jane Dempster
Registration Year: 1945
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 3050
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Thomas Household
Death Date: 9 Jan 1886
Death Place: Tasmania
Age: 78
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania
Registration number: 2886
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808


Just wondered if the alternative names for Rose might help in finding her birth?

Eringobragh1916, thankyou for your reply ,on the" statement of offence" the mother brothers and sisters were put down as" at native place "

sylvia, my reports say that Thomas was a free man ? arcives office of tasmania ,rgd ref ,rgd37/13:1854/1281,con52/7 p480 , 22/sep/1854 and also that she was prodesdent

Steven
I must have the wrong Ellen so ignore that one.

Steven
I have sent you a PM with a transcript of a "deposition statement" which may /may not be relating to your Ellen there is no mention of a Rose Dempsey .

Might be worth sending for some certificates to check out the details. Please see above for the possible details for Rose*


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Ellen Dempsey
Spouse Name: Thomas Travis
Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1854
Marriage Place: Tasmania
Registration Place: Oatlands, Tasmania
Registration Year: 1854
Registration number: 1281

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Ellen Travis
Death Date: 11 Jun 1882
Death Place: Tasmania
Age: 54
Mother's Name: Thomas
Registration Year: 1882
Registration Place: Oatlands, Tasmania
Registration number: 546
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828

Gins...Have PMd you a copy of Dep.Statement just for ref.

Thanks Erin

Cripes, deported for trying to stay alive with a bit of milk and grain!

Gins..People have no idea ....I have lots of old Records relating to the offences ..the one that always sticks in my mind ..14yr old Irish girl

Sentence...Deported..10yrs hard labour
Offence....Stealing a linen hankerchief.

We've gone soft since the 20th century ;-)