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Paula

Paula Report 8 Jan 2013 16:02

I am looking for info on my Great grand ma Frances Harper she died in 1958 when my mom was 18 yrs old Frances had 17 siblings one whom was Lilian Mary Harper born 30th July 1919 and sadly passed away 29th September 1995 later Kings by first marriage then RIED by second marriage can any one help

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jan 2013 16:06

Did she die as Harper or was she married ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:07

What other info are you looking for?
Seems Harper was her maiden name then as you give a sisters name so who did Frances marry and what area/s are we looking at?

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 8 Jan 2013 16:08

When and where was Frances born? There are a number of Lilian M Harpers so location needed.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Jan 2013 16:08

Where did she die, and when was she born? Which geographical areas are we to look for?

2 possible deaths from Freebmd implying yob c1884

Deaths Mar 1958 (>99%)
HARPER Frances 74 Bromsgrove 9d 46
HARPER Frances R 73 King's L. 4b 610

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jan 2013 16:10

Births Sep 1919

Harper Lilian M- Bateman - Stourbridge 8c 107



Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:10

??
Name: Francis R Harper
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bateman
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 103

this is male spelling tho!!


matches this birth
Name: Lilian M Harper
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bateman
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 107

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 8 Jan 2013 16:13

Where should we be looking for info ? Bromsgrove?

Name: Lilian M Harper
Spouse Surname: Kings
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 685


Name: Lilian M Kings
Spouse Surname: Read
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1960
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 120

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 8 Jan 2013 16:13

8 Harper/Bateman children listed post 1911 on Freebmd. ( incl Lilian and Francis)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:16

so Lilian married Kings

Name: Lilian M Harper
Spouse Surname: Kings
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 685
Find Spouse: Alfred Kings

then READ no Reid

Name: Lilian M Kings
Spouse Surname: Read
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1960
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 120
Find Spouse:William J Read



so who did Frances marry ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:21

parents ?
Marriages Sep 1903
Bateman Frances Dudley 6c 120
Harper Samuel Dudley 6c 120

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:23

Name: Samuel James Aston Harper
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Civil parish: Stourbridge
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 24 Cecil St, Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Glass Cutter
Registration district: Stourbridge
Registration District Number: 373
Sub-registration district: Stourbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 17482
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel James Aston Harper 37
Fanny Harper 40
Doris Aston Harper 11
Fanny Harper 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ethel May Harper 7
Frank Aston Harper 4
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 17482; Schedule Number: 32;

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jan 2013 16:26

Frances R born 1916 wouldn't be on 1911 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:27

Births Jun 1902
HARPER Fanny Stourbridge 6c 159

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jan 2013 16:27




This could be Frances' brother



Births Jun 1924
Harper Victor B - Bateman - Stourbridge 6c 96



Name: Victor Bernard Harper
Birth: Jun 24- Worcestershire, England
Death: 1974 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Marriage: Jun 1950 to Audrey Eileen DANKS - Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England

Parents: Samuel Harper, Frances Bateman


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:30

Marriages Jun 1924
Harper Fanny M Priest Dudley 6b 2021

PRIEST Albert

??
Deaths Mar 1959
PRIEST Fanny 74 Birmingham 9c 107

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 8 Jan 2013 16:33

I think this might be the parent's in the 1911 census (since the marriage if it's the right one was in Dudley):-

1911 census transcription details for: 4 Court 8 House Horseley Heath Tipton

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN17390 RG78PN1065 RD372 SD2 ED18 SN234
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Tipton
Parish: Tipton
Enum. District: 18

Address: 4 Court 8 House Horseley Heath Tipton
County: Staffordshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HARPER, Samuel Head Married M 39 1872 Coal Wheeler Habbington Oxford
HARPER, Francess Wife Married 7 years F 29 1882 South Normanton Derbyshire
HARPER, Sophia Ann Daughter F 6 1905 Tipton Staffs
HARPER, Charles Samuel Son M 5 1906 Derbyshire
HARPER, John Thomas Son M 4 1907 West Bromwich Parish
HARPER, Francess Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Tipton Staffs <<<<<<<<<<<<(this is possibly the poster's great grandma)

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jan 2013 16:38

Poster's Gt Grandma born 1916


Perhaps the baby in 1911 census died ....

Deaths Jun 1912
Harper Frances - 1 - W.Bromwich 6b 792

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Jan 2013 16:43

Births Mar 1911
Harper Frances Dudley 6c 42

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jan 2013 16:49

Only marriage I can see for Frances R Harper

Marriages Jun 1946
Harper Frances R- Rae - Brackley 3b 9
Rae William D- Harper - Brackley 3b 9