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my great grandma harriet louisa baker

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Susan

Susan Report 8 Jan 2013 21:30

I am trying to find out as much as i can about my great grandma harriet louisa baker, thats her married name. She was married to my great grandfather herbert baker, though sometimes he seems to be henry baker, they livedin staffordshire & as far as i am aware he was a 'potters designer' at burslem. he was born in 1857 in staffordshire and harriet was born in 1862 in coventry birmingham.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Jan 2013 21:35

Hi Susan - welcome to the boards

found this one


Harriet Baker
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth 1856 Tipton, Staffordshire, England
census 1881 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
spouse Henry Baker
children
Annie Baker,
Joseph F Baker

nameHarriet Bake rage25 gender Female
birth year 1856 birth place Tipton, Staffordshire, England
relationship to head of household Wife
marital condition Married
address 39 Chapel Stcensus placeSedgley, Staffordshire,
Englandrecord typeHouseholdfamily history library film1341688the national archives referenceRG11piece/folio2870 / 86page number18

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Jan 2013 21:37

Harriet L Baker
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth 1861 Birmingham, Warwickshire
census 31 Mar 1901 Burslem, Staffordshire, England

nameHarriet L Baker
eventCensus event date31 Mar 1901
genderFemale
age40
relationship to head of household
Wife birth place Birmingham, Warwickshirerecord type
Householdregistration distric
tWolstantonsub-districtBurslemecclesiastical parishSt Paul'Scivil parishBurslemcountyStaffordshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Jan 2013 21:39

Harriet L Baker
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth Birmingham Warwicks, Warwickshire
census 1911 Handsworth, Handsworth, Staffordshire, England

nameHarriet L Baker
event Census event date1911
gender Female age47
birthplace Birmingham Warwicks, Warwickshirerecord typeHouseholdregistration districtWest Bromwichsub-districtHandsworthparishHandsworthcountyStaffordshire

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Jan 2013 21:41

Possible:

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
BAKER Herbert Wolstanton 6b 179 <<<<<<<<
Brenan Thomas Wolstanton 6b 179
Cain Margaret Wolstanton 6b 179
Tomkins Harriet Louisa Wolstanton 6b 179 <<<<<<

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Jan 2013 21:43

??
Births Mar 1862 (>99%)
TOMKINS Harriet Louisa Kings N 6c 434

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Jan 2013 21:46

Joseph F Baker
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth 1877 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
census 1881 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

parent Henry Baker,
Harriet Bakername
Joseph F Baker
age4 gender Male
birth year 1877
birthplace Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
relationship to head of household Son
marital condition Single
profession/occupation Scholar
address39 Chapel St
census place Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
record type Householdfamily history library film1341688the national archives referenceRG11piece/folio2870 / 86page number18

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Jan 2013 22:11

I think Ann has this family:

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
BAKER Henry Wolstanton 6b 133 <<<<<
HOWELL Harriet Wolstanton 6b 133 <<<<<
Sale Sarah Ann Wolstanton 6b 133
WARD John Wolstanton 6b 133


There is a Henry m. Harriet and a Herbert m. Harriet Louisa, both in Wolstanton (Staffs).

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Jan 2013 22:14

This looks like Herbert in 1881

Name: Herbert Baker
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Burslem <<<<<
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Luke Street
Condition as to marriage: Married<<<<<<<
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Potters Painter <<<<<

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Burslem
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2714
Folio: 79
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Baker 25

But where's Harriet?

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 8 Jan 2013 22:17

Looks like she was away visiting:

Name: Harriet L. Baker
[Harriet L. Tomkins]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Tomkins
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Widnes
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Deacon Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3726
Folio: 51
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Tomkins 50
Sam S. Tomkins 15
Harriet L. Baker 19
Muriel G. Baker

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Jan 2013 22:41

I have sent a message to poster asking her to come back

Susan

Susan Report 11 Jan 2013 11:22

thank you so much this im still new to all this so i appreciate your help.
sue.

Flip

Flip Report 11 Jan 2013 12:25

Which of her children is your grandparent, and is this the family in 1911?

Harriet Louise Baker
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil parish: Newcastle under Lyme
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 38 Barracks Road, Newscastle Under Lyme, Staffordshire
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 31
Estimated Marriage Year: 1880
Registration district: Newcastle under Lyme
Registration District Number: 359
Sub-registration district: Newcastle under Lyme
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 204
Piece: 16407
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert Baker 52 <artist - pottery, born Stoke on Trent
Harriet Louise Baker 49
May Florence Baker 24 <born Burslem
Herbert Baker 22 <artist - pottery, born Burslem.

They had 4 children, all still alive.

Flip

Flip Report 11 Jan 2013 12:55

If it is the right family, I think the 1891 gives all children and the connection to Tomkins which would confirm Beverley's marriage and the 1881 census:

Edith M Baker
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Hurbert Baker
Mother's Name: Louie Baker
Gender: Female
Where born: Burslem, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Burslem
Ecclesiastical parish: Sneyd Green
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Burslem
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2162
Folio: 43
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Hurbert Baker 33 <<pottery designer, earth
Louie Baker 30
Marial G Baker 10
Edith M Baker 8
May F Baker 4
Hubert Baker 2
Mary Tomkins 64 <<widow born Newtown Wales

Don't think the enumerator could spell very well judging by the image.

I think this is Harriet with her parents:

Harriet Louse Tonkins
[Harriet Louse Tomkins]
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Hinton Tonkins <<born Sparkhill, Worcs.
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Tonkins <<born Vertrice north Wales
Gender: Female
Where born: Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Household schedule number: 127
Piece: 3139
Folio: 52
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hinton Tonkins 44
Mary Ann Tonkins 44
Elizabeth Mary Tonkins 19
Florence Madella Tonkins 10
Harriet Louse Tonkins 9
Sam Sebastian Tonkins 6
Ellen Tonkins 1




lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Jan 2013 13:33

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BAKER Mary Florence Burslem Stoke-On-Trent TOMKINS BUR/093/092

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1881
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BAKER Muriel Gertrude Burslem Stoke-On-Trent TOMKINS BUR/080/017

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1883
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BAKER Edith Maud Burslem Stoke-On-Trent TOMKINS BUR/084/065