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Elizabeth Brown nee Hibbert

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Julie Report 9 Jan 2013 13:48

My great grandmother disappears after the 1891 census. Her husband, Walter Brown, died in 1894 in the Sick Asylum, London, and their children were put for adoption October 1897.

I cannot find a death for Elizabeth and as the surname is so common I can't find a marriage either.

I don't know if Elizabeth died or remarried. She was born 7 July 1860, a twin of Emily, to Daniel Hibbert and Elizabeth (nee Lumbard) and she married Walter Brown on 24 February 1883 in Bucklands, Dover.

If anybody can shed light on this mystery I would be grateful




Jonesey Report 9 Jan 2013 14:18

Just a query to begin with.

You state that her children were put up for adoption in October 1897. As there were no formal adoptions until 1927 where and in what form of documentation did you discover that the responsibility for the upkeep of her children was transferred to other persons?

Is this the family in 1891?

Name: Elizabeth Brown
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Walter Brown
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Tower Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status:

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Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 320
Folio: 124
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Brown 29 born Scotland
Elizabeth Brown 30
Walter Brown 5 born Plumpstead, Kent
Lily Brown 3 born Bromley
James Brown 1/12 born Bromley
Mary A Simmonds 46


Julie Report 10 Jan 2013 15:04


Yes this is the family. I found the two younger children put out by the Aspley Guise Committee to families. My grandfather (James) was the youngest, and he is listed as adopted to a family in Bow Brickhill, where his sister (Lily) was living. The eldest child (Walter) was left to fend for himself as he was 12 years old.


Jonesey Report 10 Jan 2013 16:22

As Aspley Guise School took children who were boarded out from London workhouses presumably Walter, Lily and James had at sometime been admitted into a London workhouse. Perhaps if you could discover which workhouse that was, the admissions book might reveal something about their mothers circumstances at the time of their admission. As you rightly say her married name, Elizabeth Brown, was an extremely common one so trying to establish from BMD indexes alone whether she re-married or died is likely to prove extremely difficult.

It is a sad footnote that the eldest child, Walter was left to fend for himself in the world at the tender age of 12.

Good luck with your research.