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Honora married George Eaton in 1881 & they had a daughter Anna Susannah (reg as Ann Susan) b 1885, Bapt 1885, died 1886.
Havefound the couple on the 1891, 1901 & 1911 census. Oddly in 1881 George is showing as a lodger, married, but can´t find Honora.
She´s not on any censuses with her parents, but have found an Ann Susan Murphy on the 1861 census with the correct year of birth, parents Patrick Murphy & Susan Felton marr B´ham 1855. I suspect this may be Honora & she was known by a different name as a child, although she did marry as Honora & is on all the later censuses as Honora Eaton.
Patrick Murphy was a bootmaker, as was Honora´s husband George Eaton.
Please can anyone spot her between 1861 & 1881.

Bit confused here :-S

If Ann Susan was born in 1885 how can we look her up as Ann Susan Murphy on the 1861 census???????

1911 - for ref.

Name: Honorah Eaton
Age in 1911: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Portland Place St Mark St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: Lady Woon
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 18003
Household Members: Name Age
George Eaton 52
Honorah Eaton 51
Elizabeth Rose Eaton 19
Margrett Ruth Eaton 17
Charles Edward Eaton 13
James Eaton 16

Mel

I think 1855 refers to the parents marriage?

Do you have her fathers name from the marriage cert?

Right got it now.

For Ref.

1861 England Census
about Ann S Murphy
Name: Ann S Murphy
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick Murphy
Mother's Name: Susan Murphy
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Piece: 2149
Folio: 93
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Murphy 37
Susan Murphy 25
Mary A Murphy 6
Edmund Murphy 4
Ann S Murphy 2

All children born Warwickshire and only Patrick born Ireland.

What name and occupation did Honora give for her father when she married George please?

Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%)
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DILLON Caroline Birmingham 6d 267
Eaton George Birmingham 6d 267 <<<<<<<<<
MURPHY Honora Birmingham 6d 267 <<<<<<<<<<
Murphy Honra Birmingham 6d 267
MURPHY Matthew Birmingham 6d 267

I can only find one birth for that name and its the wrong year/place

Births Sep 1857 (>99%)
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Murphy Anne Susannah Bethnal Gn 1c 286


You may well be right about the name change

Seems mum died in 1886???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Susan Murphy
Name: Susan Murphy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1886
Age at Death: 49
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 109

No Hon* or Ann*

1871 England Census
about Patrick Munphy
Name: Patrick Munphy
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan Munphy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 3111
Folio: 96
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Munphy 38
Susan Munphy 39
Mary Ann Munphy 15
Edmund Murphy 13
Ansther Munphy 11
Elizabeth Munphy 9
Margaret Munphy 7
Catherine Munphy 5

???

Name: Honora Murphy
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1859
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 119

Yes Gins, that´s the only one I could find too, but Honora is definitely registered in Birmingham which I why I suspect that Honora of the registration & Ann Susan of the 1861 census could be the same person, especially as Honora & George named a daughter Ann Susan.
On the 1871 census Patrick & Susan have a daughter of the right age recorded as another daughter Murphy(although it hasn´t been transcribed as that....have sent an amendment for that & the surname which is transcribed as Munphy)
Seems a coincidence that there should be 2 Ann Susans in 2 generations & that George Eaton should have the same occupation as Ann Susan the elder´s father.
Haven´t got the cert at the moment.Trying like most people to save a bit of money as this is not my direct line. George & Honora were parents of my g uncle by marriage.
Won´t go any further, it gets too complicated.

Is this her birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Honora Murphy
Name: Honora Murphy
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1859
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 119

That´s her. She died in Aston June 1920.
Just looking for a death for George.
Think they were Catholics, judging by the baptism details for their daughter Anna Susannah. The fact that Honora wasn´t with George on the 1881 census & the length of time between the marriage & the birth of Anna seems a bit odd.
Just off to look for a death for George.

Well I have tried all sorts of names and nothing is really showing.

I think the only way you will ever know is to buy the marriage cert if you want to be sure.

That´s what I was afraid of.
Thanks all for the help.

1881 England Census
about Annie Murphy
Name: Annie Murphy
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Bham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Court 7 Hinckley St


Occupation: Spoon Polisher Metal

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2979
Folio: 65
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
George Tucker 25
Sarah Tucker 25
Elizabeth Tucker 6
Samuel Tucker 4
George Tucker 3
John Tucker 2
Annie Murphy 25 LODGER UNMARRIED