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Tasmania lookup please

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۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 11 Jan 2013 09:04

Seeking information please on several convict brothers, sons of Anthony WEBB of Oxfordshire.

I have found permissions to marry for one but no idea if he married one or both (or neither!)

He was Anthony WEBB (b. c1800), arr on 'Marmion' - permission to marry Mary WICKS (arr 'Siren') in 1838 then permission to marry Ann BURTON (arr 'Hydery') in 1840!

I have a likely death for him in Victoria aged 61 in 1861 but no trace of a family.

His brothers were Jas (c1802, arr 'Susan'), Thos (c1804, arr Barossa?), and Wm (c1812, also 'Susan'). Another brother, Robert c1817, died on the 'Susan'.

Any help tracking them down much appreciated! Thank you.

:-)

Gins

Gins Report 11 Jan 2013 11:06

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851
Name: James Webb Snt: 7 years
Age: 35
Birth Year: Abt 1802
Spouse: Margaret Mullaw
Request Status: Granted <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Permission/Refusal: 15 Aug 1837

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851
Name: James Webb Snt: 7 years
Age: 35
Birth Year: Abt 1802
Spouse: Mullane
Request Status: Refused <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Permission/Refusal: 26 Aug 1837
Alias: Mullin, cannot be allowed as Mullane having declared on arrival that she was married


New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851
Name: James Webb Snt: 7 years
Age: 35
Birth Year: Abt 1802
Spouse: Margaret Mullan
Request Status: Granted <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Permission/Refusal: 3 Oct 1837



Im thinking this is the marriage of the couple above, mistranscribed


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: James Webb
Spouse Name: Margaret Melam
Marriage Date: 1837
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Abercrombie District, Bathurst, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1837
Volume Number: V



I think the ship James (The above James) arrived on is called 'Minerva' so may not be your man or he forgot the name of the ship?

Gins

Gins Report 11 Jan 2013 11:16

From a tree at Ancestry


Thomas Webb
merry Family Tree
Birth: 1804 - Oxfordshire, England
Marriage: 1861 - Victoria, Australia
Death: 1885 - Leopold, Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Ann Nixon


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Thomas Webb
Spouse Name: Ann Nixon
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1861
Registration number: 2548

If it's your man, he would have getting on a bit to marry in 1861?

This could be his first marriage?


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Thomas Webb
Spouse Name: Mary Campbell
Marriage Date: 3 Feb 1840
Marriage Place: Tasmania
Registration Place: Launceston, Tasmania
Registration Year: 1840
Registration number: 823

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Jan 2013 12:42

????????

name: Robert Webb
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 44
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Hook Norton, Oxfordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Banbury
sub-district: 1 Bloxham
ecclesiastical parish:
civil parish: Hook Norton
county: Oxfordshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Jan 2013 12:42

Robert Webb
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth 1816 Oxfordshire
census 1841 Bampton, Oxfordshire, England

Robert Webb
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth 1816 Oxfordshire
census 1841 Henley Oxon, Oxfordshire, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 Jan 2013 12:48

Thomas Webb, one of 350 convicts transported on the Barrosa, 27 August 1841
Name, Aliases & Gender
Name: Thomas Webb
Aliases: none
Gender: -

Median life span was 65 years*

* Median life span based on contributions
Conviction & Transportation
Sentence Severity


Sentenced to 15 years
Crime: -
Convicted at: Oxfordshire Assizes
Sentence term: 15 years
Ship: Barrosa
Departure date: 27th August, 1841
Arrival date*: 27th April, 1842
Place of arrival Van Diemen's Land
Passenger manifest Travelled with

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jan 2013 14:09

Don't know if you have this for Thomas.


UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849 about Thomas Webb
Name: Thomas Webb
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Date Received: 25 Mar 1841
Ship: Warrior
Place Moored: Chatham and Woolwich
Date Convicted: 27 Feb 1841
Place Convicted: Oxford

Convicted for sheepstealing, married with 4 children, could neither read nor write. Described as ' an idle, bad character of disreputable conduct.'
Disposed of to Van Dieman's Land on board the 'Barrosa' 16 Aug 1841.



Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868 about Thomas Webb
Name: Thomas Webb
Vessel: Barrosa
Convicted Date: 27 Feb 1841
Voyage Date: 27 Aug 1841
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Place of Conviction: Oxfordshire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jan 2013 14:19

Is this the father with his sons William and Anthony jnr? All sentenced to death for sheepstealing.


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Anthony Webb
Name: Anthony Webb
Date of Trial: Summer 1827
Trial Year: 1827
Location of Trial: Oxfordshire, England
Sentence: Death


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about William Webb
Name: William Webb
Date of Trial: Summer 1827
Trial Year: 1827
Location of Trial: Oxfordshire, England
Sentence: Death





UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849 about Anthy Webb
Name: Anthy Webb
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Date Received: 26 Sep 1827
Ship: York
Place Moored: Portsmouth
Date Convicted: 25 Jul 1827
Place Convicted: Oxford



UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849 about Anthy Webb
Name: Anthy Webb
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1772
Date Received: 26 Sep 1827
Ship: York
Place Moored: Portsmouth
Date Convicted: 25 Jul 1827
Place Convicted: Oxford

Anthony snr 55 and jnr 26 held aboard the same hulk for sheepstealing. Both sent to NSW for life on 30 Oct. Had been sentenced on 25th July 1827 at Oxford,.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 12 Jan 2013 07:51

Yes that's them alviegal, thank you. I don't think Anthony snr made it here, can't find him so maybe he died before the ship left the UK?

Thanks Gins and Ann...you have given me more to go on with.... :-)

EDIT: Just checked out the Thos who married Mary CAMPBELL in Tassie and he arrived aboard 'Surrey.' Though there was a Thos WEBB who arrived on 'Marmion' (same as Anthony) so now it has me wondering...he applied to marry Frances ELSOM (arr 'Majestic') in 1840.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 12 Jan 2013 07:58

alviegal - with the Thos record you posted- is 'Warrior' the UK ship and then Barrosa the actual transport ship? (ie do the 2 records refer to the same fellow?)

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 12 Jan 2013 08:05

BUT the 1861 marriage in Victoria for Thomas actually looks good as they had a son named Job, which was a family name...found a possiblde death in the same area in 1885 aged 85, bit out but who knows, if was illiterate he may have lost track haha!

:-)

Now just James, Anthony & Wm to work out!

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 15:34

Hi , yes they are the same person.

'Warrier' was the hulk on which they were imprisoned before being transported on the 'Barrosa'.

alviegal

alviegal Report 12 Jan 2013 15:45

There is also this for Anthony snr. Not sure I understand it as it is a different hulk and the column of how he was 'disposed of' is left blank.



UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849 about Anty Webb
Name: Anty Webb
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1772
Date Received: 26 Sep 1827
Ship: Hardy
Place Moored: Portsmouth
Date Convicted: 25 Jul 1827
Place Convicted: Oxford

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 13 Jan 2013 09:24

Hmm this lot are a puzzle! :-S