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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Feb 2013 12:14

tania

You might care to contact Elaine by clicking on her name

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 8 Feb 2013 12:09

Have we been able to ascertain what happened to Eliza Lowis Kirk b 1848 who married George Ayre? It would appear that the death mentioned above in 1891 may be incorrect as that Eliza Kirk was married to Moses Ayre.

The Eliza Lowis Kirk who died in 1928 is a different (but related) Eliza Kirk.

BurgessRae

BurgessRae Report 8 Feb 2013 10:46

Hello Everyone
Thanks for this great information. I too am researching this family and trying to find what happened to Alfred Kirk Born 1873 to Eliza Louis Kirk and unknown father in Cambridgeshire. I agree this death in 1889 seems unlikely given the father's name.

Any other suggestions for Alfred much appreciated.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Jan 2013 16:57

(perhaps not!)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Cleethorpes
Church Municipal Cemetery
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 20 Mar 1889
Forename Alfred
Relationship Son of
Rel1MaleForename William
Rel1FemaleForename Eliza
Rel1Surname KIRK
Surname KIRK
Age 15
Abode Thorold St NC
Notes Died 16 Mar 1889

Chris :)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above link)

Elaine

Elaine Report 13 Jan 2013 10:26

Thanks - the other two bits I am working on are ELiza's son Alfred's death (this could be him)and where Jemmina (ELiza Lowis Kirk's sister went. She was born in 1838 and married Matthew Cutting. They have several children but then don't appear and I havent been able to find immigration records for them.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Jan 2013 09:05

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
AYRE Ada Grimsby 7a 1342
Curry Mary Alice Grimsby 7a 1342
Platt Charles Grimsby 7a 1342
Willerton Jesse Grimsby 7a 1342


Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Ayre Emily Grimsby 7a 880
BORMAN Edmund Grimsby 7a 880
Brown Kate Elizabeth Grimsby 7a 880
Sallis William Grimsby 7a 880


1901
PLATT, Ada Wife Married F 25 1876
Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire
PLATT, George H Son M 3 1898
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
AYRE, Maude M Sister Single F 16 1885 General Servant (Domestic)
Barton on Humber, Lincolnshire
TOPPLE, John Boarder Married M 31 1870 Coal Porter
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
TOPPLE, Louisa A Boarder Married F 27 1874
Hull, Yorkshire
TOPPLE, Polly Boarder F 6 1895
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
TOPPLE, George H Boarder M 1 1900
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
Piece: 3094
Folio: 158
Page: 10
Registration District: Grimsby
Civil Parish: Clee
Municipal Borough:
Address: 22, Trinity Street, Clee, Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire

1901
Boarder Single M 39 1862 General Labourer
Scotland
BENNETT, Charles Boarder Married M 33 1868 Ships Engineer
Bethnal Green, London
BENNETT, Florence Boarder Married F 30 1871
Hull, Yorkshire
SALLIS, William Boarder Married M 27 1874 Fisherman
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
SALLIS, Emily Boarder Married F 23 1878
Barton, Lincolnshire
SALLIS, Maggie Boarder Single F 5 1896
Renishaw, Derbyshire
SALLIS, Alfred Boarder Single M 2 1899
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
SALLIS, Mary Boarder Single F 0 (5 MOS) 1901
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
Piece: 3092
Folio: 37
Page: 11
Registration District: Grimsby
Civil Parish: Great Grimsby
Municipal Borough:
Address: 99, Orwell Street, Great Grimsby, Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire


Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
Ayre Maud Mary Glanford B. 7a 730

(other sister)


Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
AYRE Maude Mary Grimsby 7a 1371
COLLIER William Charles Grimsby 7a 1371
REED Alphoeus John Grimsby 7a 1371
Thorndyke Nellie Grimsby 7a 1371


1911
COLLIER, William Charles Head Married M 26 1885 Casual Labourer Lincolnshire Grismby
COLLIER, Maude Mary Wife Married4 years F 26 1885 Lincolnshire Barton
COLLIER, Mable Maude Daughter F 3 1908 Lincolnshire Grinsby
COLLIER, Ireebe Winirfered Daughter F 1 1910 Lincolnshire Grinsby
RG number: RG14
Piece: 19983
Reference: RG14PN19983 RG78PN1197B RD422 SD1 ED33 SN83
Registration District: Grimsby
Sub District: Great Grimsby
Enumeration District: 33
Parish: Cleethorpes
Address: 31 Sussex St New Cleethorpes Grimsby
County: Lincolnshire


(where is Maude Mary 1891?)


Chris :)

(can see above, if girls Marriage Certs., hold a clue!)


Deaths Mar 1889 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------
Kirk Alfred 15 Caistor 7a 417

(not sure if Alfred)

Elaine

Elaine Report 13 Jan 2013 03:29

HI Everyone again

My apologies for not including ELiza's middle name which is as you have found "Lowis" - I have also found some variations such as Lowess and Louis. The two ELiza Lowis Kirks in my family are the one born in 1968 with Gabriel as her eldest and later married to George Ayre (we know this from documents belonging to Gabriel Kirk) and her niece, Eliza Lowis Kirk, daughter of ELiza's brother John Lowis Kirk. Kirk seems to have been a common name around the area.

Thank you for finding Ada Ayre and Emily Ayre. That suggests to me that Eliza stayed in England. Just need to find nw when she died.
Elaine

Elaine

Elaine Report 13 Jan 2013 00:50

Hi Everyone

Thank you for your quick and comprehensive responses. In answer to Reggie's question re Gabriel travelling alone - I have been unable to evidence of any other member of the family travelling with him. Also, there are many family stories and photos stil around from soon after the time he arrived in Rockhampton and no mention of any siblings or parents. Gabriel married Lois Essex in Rockhampton in 1895 and many of the family lived to an old age and stayed in the area. My 92 year old Dad remembers Gabriel but no other family members. However, I still have not discounted the possibility. ELaine

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:28

Are you certain, Elaine, that Gabriel travelled alone when he emigrated?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:24

I think this is the one who died in 1891

1891 England Census about Eliza Ayre
Name: Eliza Ayre
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Moses Ayre
Gender: Female
Where born: Moulton Chapel, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Pinchbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Pinchbeck
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Spalding
Sub-registration district: Pinchbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2559
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Moses Ayre 16
Eliza Ayre 43
Mary Jane Ayre 15
Rose Annie Ayre 12
Ada Ayre 9
Sarah Beatrice Ayre 3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:20

The death to match the burial

Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%)
Ayre Eliza 43 Spalding 7a 207

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:16

1881 England Census

Name: Eliza Ayre
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Ayre
Gender: Female
Where born: Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: Barton St Mary
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Pasture Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Quarryman Wife
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3291
Folio: 60
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
George Ayre 53
Eliza Ayre 33
Gabrel Kirk 11
Alfred Kirk 7
Ada Ayre 5
Emily Ayre 3

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jan 2013 11:12

Burial (not sure if her)
First name(s): Eliza
Last name: AYRE
Date of burial 13 Aug 1891
Age at death: 43
Calculated year of birth: 1848
Place of burial Pinchbeck
Dedication: St Mary
County: Lincolnshire

Chris :)

edis (No, she is with husband Moses 1891)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Jan 2013 11:10

must be this Eliza .his sister so not your Eliza

Name: John Lowis Kirk
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Kirk
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsoken, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Wisbech St Peter
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street Address: South Brink
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farmer (Of 13 Acres)
Registration district: Wisbech
Sub-registration district: Wisbech
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1695
Folio: 48
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lowis Kirk 53
Sarah Kirk 46
John L. Kirk 19
James L. Kirk 17
Eliza L. Kirk 15 >>>
Robert M. Kirk 10
George E.M. Kirk 5
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1695; Folio: 48; Page: 5; GSU roll: 1341405.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:09

Elaine

Didn't you notice the AGE of the one who died in 1928?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Eliza L Kirk
Birth Date: abt 1866
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Wisbech
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 3b
Page: 597

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Jan 2013 11:09

1911 England Census about John Lowis Kirk
Name: John Lowis Kirk
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: Maidenhead
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 40 Norfolk Road, Maidenhead
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Architect and Surveyor
Registration district: Maidenhead
Registration District Number: 123
Sub-registration district: Maidenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 6660
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lowis Kirk 49
Selina Kirk 53
Eric George Cox 16 visitor
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 6660; Schedule Number: 25;


no children born .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:08

There are TWO Eliza Lowis Kirks

One was born c1866

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jan 2013 11:07

1911
KIRK, Eliza Lowis Head Single F 45 1866 Assisting In Poultry And Fruit Gardens Wisbech
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9301
Reference: RG14PN9301 RG78PN500 RD187 SD2 ED7 SN39
Registration District: Wisbech
Sub District: Wisbech
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Wisbech St Peter
Address: South Brink Wisbech
County: Cambridgeshire

Chris :)

Baptism
Day:30
Month:Jul
Year:1865
Forenames:Eliza Lowis
Surname:Kirk
Relationship:of
Father forenames:John Lowis
Fathers occupation:carpenter
Mother forenames:Sarah
Birth Day:17
Birth Month:Jul
Birth Year:1865
Abode:of South Brink
Place:Wisbech, St Peter
County:Cambridgeshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 12 Jan 2013 11:06

Described as a spinster on the will , probate to John Lowis Kirk, architect

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jan 2013 11:00

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Eliza Lowis Kirk
Probate Date: 5 Sep 1928
Death Date: 20 May 1928
Death Place: Cambridgeshire, England
Registry: London, England