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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2013 15:31

Sooo frustrating!!

I look forward to hearing about the info on the marriage cert!!

Prickles.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 15:14

She may just have been missed from the 1901.

I have tried searching without her surname (in case she was lurking under a different married name for her mother) and also just using her surname (in case her christian name had been mistranscribed) but not found any possibilities.

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:55

Thank you and yes I think you are right about waiting for the marriage certificate to come back

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:51

It's strange that there is no trace of her in 1901 as she married in 1903, very odd indeed :-S

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 14:45

Don't order the birth certificate until you get Ruth's marriage certificate. There may be a clue on that if she gives a name and occupation for a father.

It would be a pity to waste £9.25 if it is the wrong Ruth. I know it is exciting but you obviously want to build an accurate tree which over time will probably involve buying lots of certificates.

I think it only takes about a week for the certificates to come if you order online quoting the volume and page number.

Good luck

Mrs. Rootie

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:39

Oh that is a conundrum, this is getting more and more frustrating

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:36

I noticed that too very curious, I think I shall order a copy of her birth certificate, as soon as it comes back I shall let you know what details it holds, it's such a pain that they didn't see fit to list mothers namebefore 1910 or was that 1911 :-(

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 14:28

That's what I was wondering too Amanda. From looking at the census records Sarah Ann and her husband Joseph don't appear to have had children of their own.

1911

Name: Sarah Ann Hicks
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Oldland Common, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Rickmansworth Urban
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 253 New Road, Croxley Green, Herts
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 33
Estimated Marriage Year: 1878
Registration district: Watford
Registration District Number: 140
Sub-registration district: Rickmansworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 7722
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Hicks 56
Sarah Ann Hicks 57

No children born.



I am blowed though if I can find their niece in 1901!!!!!!!!!!!!!





rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 14:25

There are only 2 Ruth Long births in the timescale. One of which has been eliminated as she married some-else.

The other one is the Barton Regis birth.

On the 1911 census Ruth gives her birthplace as Bristol. It is not uncommon for people to give the name of a nearby town or city as there birthplace.

Barton Regis was, from 1894 to 1904, a rural district in the administrative county of Gloucestershire, adjacent to the City of Bristol.

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:15

Right now that I have done my maths correctly (I am an idiot) it turns out that anyone of Sarahs siblings could be Ruths parent, I am now wondering if Ruth was infact born out of wedlock and that Sarah took her on as her daughter possibley, I may be totaly off course here

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:02

Where does the Barton fit in? I can't find any mention of older siblings for Sarah either

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 13:57

Hmmm.......very interesting I wonder which is her mother, I'm just going to have to wait for the marriage records and hope the answer may be there

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2013 13:54

According to the 1891.........Ruth is the Neice of Sarah Ann Long............so Sarah being the Sister of Ruth's Mother or Father.

As Ruth's surname is Long......i would assume Brother........but she may have been the illigitimate Daughter of one of Sarah's Sisters.

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 13:43

So if I am reading right Sarah Ann Long was possibley Ruths mother or sister?

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 13:36

If they are one thing I can say for deffinate is that my lot seem to be extremely fertile lol

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 13:31

Thank you I hope when marriage cert comes back that they may be a match

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 13:28

Maybe clutching at straws here but surname looks like Long on image

1891

Name: Ruth Lory
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Bitton, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bitton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
Town: Oldland Common
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Bitton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1941
Folio: 41
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Hicks 36
Sarah A Hicks 38
Ruth Lory 9

Marriages Dec 1877
Carter John Barton R. 6a 336
Carter Sarah Ann Barton R. 6a 336
Hicks Joseph Barton Regis 6a 336 <<<<<<<<<
Hill Ann Barton Regis 6a 336
Long Sarah Ann Barton R. 6a 336 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Births Jun 1882 Long Ruth Barton R. 6a 195

1871

Name: Sarah Ann Long
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Long
Mother's Name: Hannah Long
Gender: Female
Where born: Bitton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Bitton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Oldland
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Oldland
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 2501
Folio: 102
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Long 59
Hannah Long 48
Sarah Ann Long 19
Mary Long 15
John Long 13
Hester Long 11
Martha Long 8
Elizabeth Long 4


amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 12:42

Hahaha.........sorry about that :-D
I didin't even know that Harriott had another name

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2013 12:33

And thats why i only have one hair left on my head. :-D

Prickles.

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 12:30

That explains why I couldn't find her any where on there lastnight. Thank you