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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2013 13:54

According to the 1891.........Ruth is the Neice of Sarah Ann Long............so Sarah being the Sister of Ruth's Mother or Father.

As Ruth's surname is Long......i would assume Brother........but she may have been the illigitimate Daughter of one of Sarah's Sisters.

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 13:57

Hmmm.......very interesting I wonder which is her mother, I'm just going to have to wait for the marriage records and hope the answer may be there

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:02

Where does the Barton fit in? I can't find any mention of older siblings for Sarah either

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:15

Right now that I have done my maths correctly (I am an idiot) it turns out that anyone of Sarahs siblings could be Ruths parent, I am now wondering if Ruth was infact born out of wedlock and that Sarah took her on as her daughter possibley, I may be totaly off course here

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 14:25

There are only 2 Ruth Long births in the timescale. One of which has been eliminated as she married some-else.

The other one is the Barton Regis birth.

On the 1911 census Ruth gives her birthplace as Bristol. It is not uncommon for people to give the name of a nearby town or city as there birthplace.

Barton Regis was, from 1894 to 1904, a rural district in the administrative county of Gloucestershire, adjacent to the City of Bristol.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 14:28

That's what I was wondering too Amanda. From looking at the census records Sarah Ann and her husband Joseph don't appear to have had children of their own.

1911

Name: Sarah Ann Hicks
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Oldland Common, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Rickmansworth Urban
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 253 New Road, Croxley Green, Herts
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 33
Estimated Marriage Year: 1878
Registration district: Watford
Registration District Number: 140
Sub-registration district: Rickmansworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 7722
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Hicks 56
Sarah Ann Hicks 57

No children born.



I am blowed though if I can find their niece in 1901!!!!!!!!!!!!!





amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:36

I noticed that too very curious, I think I shall order a copy of her birth certificate, as soon as it comes back I shall let you know what details it holds, it's such a pain that they didn't see fit to list mothers namebefore 1910 or was that 1911 :-(

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:39

Oh that is a conundrum, this is getting more and more frustrating

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 14:45

Don't order the birth certificate until you get Ruth's marriage certificate. There may be a clue on that if she gives a name and occupation for a father.

It would be a pity to waste £9.25 if it is the wrong Ruth. I know it is exciting but you obviously want to build an accurate tree which over time will probably involve buying lots of certificates.

I think it only takes about a week for the certificates to come if you order online quoting the volume and page number.

Good luck

Mrs. Rootie

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:51

It's strange that there is no trace of her in 1901 as she married in 1903, very odd indeed :-S

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 14:55

Thank you and yes I think you are right about waiting for the marriage certificate to come back

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 15:14

She may just have been missed from the 1901.

I have tried searching without her surname (in case she was lurking under a different married name for her mother) and also just using her surname (in case her christian name had been mistranscribed) but not found any possibilities.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2013 15:31

Sooo frustrating!!

I look forward to hearing about the info on the marriage cert!!

Prickles.

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 15:39

Thank you and I will let you all know soon as I get it back. I now have to go try catch my damn rabbit as she has excaped :-(

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Jan 2013 15:41

Yes, me too Prickles. Don't we just love a wee mystery?

Just in the passing, when scouring the census and FreeBMD records the seem to be a few Long twins about (think there may even have been triplets although two may have died?). Wonder if twins ran in Ruth's family?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Jan 2013 16:37

Hmmm, long twins eh?

:-D :-D

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 13 Jan 2013 17:44

That is interesting to hear twins and triplets hmmmm...........can't wait to get certificate back :-D

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 15 Jan 2013 18:09

Hi just thought I'd let you know dispatch date is 22/1/13 :-(

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Jan 2013 18:16

Thank you Amanda. That's great as I didn't think you were ready to order it just yet. Looking forward to the outcome and hope your postie is more reliable than mine!

amanda louise

amanda louise Report 15 Jan 2013 20:12

Oh he better be I know where he lives ;-)
Yes I was just waiting for pay check to clear which it did today so as soon as I got home from work I orderd it :-)
Sorry for the late reply