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Isabella(Esabella) White born circa 1844

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Jasmine

Jasmine Report 14 Jan 2013 17:20

Does anyone know anything positive about above lady?
In 1860, at the age of 16 (so my family told me), she married John Mansell. (He died in 1880).
They lived in Gloucestershire, had a son, William(Bill) and daughter Georgiana and settled in Stow on the Wold.
In about 1870, Isabella moved in next door, with Thomas Kendall, taking with her a younger daughter, Frances (Fanny) Mansell.
In about 1880 she married Thomas Kendall,with whom she had a child, Mary Ann in June1881.
Thomas Kendall died in 1892.
On Christmas Day,1893, Isabella Kendall married Henry Curry.
From then till now(decades!) I cannot find any trace of either Isabella or Henry Curry!
However, I did recently find a marriage, in Watford Herts, in 1906, for a Frances Fanny Mansell to an Albert H Rickard. I'm hoping to find some evidence from their marriage certificate.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jan 2013 17:41

Jasmine, I am a bit hazy about how much concrete info you have and how much is family stories.
Have you got her on a census so we can start there? And do you know anything else about Henry?
Jan

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jan 2013 17:44

Just for info re the marriasge you found\;


1911 England Census about Frances Rickard
Name: Frances Rickard
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stow On The Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Watford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 42 St Albans Road, Watford
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Estimated Marriage Year: 1907
Registration district: Watford
Registration District Number: 140
Sub-registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 7704
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Rickard 29
Frances Rickard 30
Frances Jane Rickard 1

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 17:45

Use the available free records to get facts.

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

OR

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Family stories can be fascinating.........but not always accurate

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 17:45

Marriage

MANSELL John WHITE Izabella Cheltenham Winchcombe St Peter 1860 1 351

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 17:48

BIRTH??????

MANSELL Sarah A MANSELL MANSELL WHITE 1863 North Cotswolds Stow-on-the-Wold, Stow-on-the-Wold

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jan 2013 17:50

??


1851 England Census about Esabella White
Name: Esabella White
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John White
Mother's Name: Mary White
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Alderton, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Alderton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Winchcomb
Sub-registration district: Guyting
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 1971
Folio: 264
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John White 34
Mary White 30
Ann White 9
Esabella White 6
Fany White 4
James White 1


1861 England Census
Name: Isabella Mansell
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Mansell
Gender: Female
Where born: Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Winchcomb
Town: Winchcomb
County/Island: Gloucestershire


Registration district: Winchcomb
Sub-registration district: Guiting

John Mansell 20
Isabella Mansell 18
Ann Jones 17
William Jones 14
Thomas Webb 23

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 17:53

1861 England Census
Name: John Mansell
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Mansell
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Winchcomb
Town: Winchcomb
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Winchcomb
Sub-registration district: Guiting
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 1792
Folio: 34
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mansell 20
Isabella Mansell 18....born Winchcombe
Ann Jones 17
William Jones 14
Thomas Webb 23

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jan 2013 17:55

Right, we do have her


1891 England Census
Name: Isabel Kendall
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Kendall
Gender: Female
Where born: Alderton, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Stow on the Wold
Ecclesiastical parish: Stow on the Wold
Town: Stow on the Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold

Thomas Kendall 67
Isabel Kendall 46
Francis Kendall 13
James Kendall 12
Mary Kendall 8
R J White 34

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 17:58

If this is her daughter...............

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frances Fanny Mansell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1877
Registration district: Stow on the Wold
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 399

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:01

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)

Kendall Thomas Stow on W. 6a 670
Mansell Isabella Stow on the Wold 6a 670

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:02

Marriage.............

CURRY Henry KENDALL Isabella North Cotswolds Stow-on-the-Wold Register Office 1893 3 11
CURRY Henry WHITE Isabella North Cotswolds Stow-on-the-Wold Register Office 1893 3 11

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:07

1901 England Census

Name: Mary Kendal
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Northfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Selly Oak St Mary
Town: Selly Oak
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: Kings Norton Union Infirmary
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2809
Folio: 167
Page Number: 7

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jan 2013 18:11

Got her!!

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
Curry Isabella King's N. 6c 887
Hickman Alfred Herbert King's N. 6c 887


1901 England Census

Name: Isabella Hickman
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred H Hickman
Gender: Female
Where born: Winchester, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Smethwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Old Church
County/Island: Worcestershire



Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne


Alfred H Hickman 49
Isabella Hickman 51
James Mansell 28



brummiejan

brummiejan Report 14 Jan 2013 18:14


1911 England Census about Isabella Hickman
Name: Isabella Hickman
Age in 1911: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Lodger
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Gloucestershire
Civil parish: Smethwick
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Melbourne Road, Smethwick
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Kings Norton
Registration District Number: 383
Sub-registration district: Smethwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 139
Piece: 17973
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jephson 55
Alice Jephson 17
Isabella Hickman 65

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:15

How old was Henry Curry when they married?

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:19

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Georgiana Mansell
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1865
Registration district: Stow on the Wold
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 339

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:21

1871 England Census
Name: Georgana Mansel
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Maugersbury
Town: Maugersbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2655
Folio: 52
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Kendal 45
Isabla Mansel 26
Georgana Mansel 5
William Mansell 3

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Jan 2013 18:22

1911 England Census
Name: William Mansell
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stow On The Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 96 Peel Street Winson Grn Birm
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Stoker
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: Lady Woon
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Piece: 18029
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mansell 43
Eliza Mansell 41
Elsie Mansell 18
Tom Mansell 16
William Mansell 15
Arthur Mansell 13
Gladys Mansell 8
Edward Henry Mansell 4

Jasmine

Jasmine Report 23 Jan 2013 18:47

Dear Everyone (who answered my enquiry re my great grandmother, Esabella(and variants)White/Mansell/Kendall/Curry/Hickman)

Thank you all very much for all the information you have supplied. This has been a very great help in backing up all the work I have done for many years.

Did you get this information from originals as I used to do before we all had to use the computer, or via computer?

I ask this, as in one case, Isabella (under name of Hickman) was put down as being born in WINCHESTER, Gloucestershire (It should have read WINCHCOMBE,Gloucestershire, as Winchester is in Hampshire. I was also a little worried by LADY WOON. I did find some real howlers in the early digital transcriptions I had to use, like "a member of a grass band"?!

However, All in all, I was very pleased today 23rd Jan 2013 (as I had trouble with not being able access my email provider over the last week - exasperation!!).

Thank you all most heartily for making my day.

Jasmine (great granddaughter of Esabella White)