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Jasmine
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14 Jan 2013 17:20 |
Does anyone know anything positive about above lady? In 1860, at the age of 16 (so my family told me), she married John Mansell. (He died in 1880). They lived in Gloucestershire, had a son, William(Bill) and daughter Georgiana and settled in Stow on the Wold. In about 1870, Isabella moved in next door, with Thomas Kendall, taking with her a younger daughter, Frances (Fanny) Mansell. In about 1880 she married Thomas Kendall,with whom she had a child, Mary Ann in June1881. Thomas Kendall died in 1892. On Christmas Day,1893, Isabella Kendall married Henry Curry. From then till now(decades!) I cannot find any trace of either Isabella or Henry Curry! However, I did recently find a marriage, in Watford Herts, in 1906, for a Frances Fanny Mansell to an Albert H Rickard. I'm hoping to find some evidence from their marriage certificate.
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brummiejan
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14 Jan 2013 17:41 |
Jasmine, I am a bit hazy about how much concrete info you have and how much is family stories. Have you got her on a census so we can start there? And do you know anything else about Henry? Jan
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brummiejan
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14 Jan 2013 17:44 |
Just for info re the marriasge you found\;
1911 England Census about Frances Rickard Name: Frances Rickard Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Stow On The Wold, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Watford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: 42 St Albans Road, Watford Marital Status: Married Years Married: 4 Estimated Marriage Year: 1907 Registration district: Watford Registration District Number: 140 Sub-registration district: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 84 Piece: 7704 Household Members: Name Age Albert Rickard 29 Frances Rickard 30 Frances Jane Rickard 1
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 17:45 |
Use the available free records to get facts.
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
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http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Family stories can be fascinating.........but not always accurate
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 17:45 |
Marriage
MANSELL John WHITE Izabella Cheltenham Winchcombe St Peter 1860 1 351
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 17:48 |
BIRTH??????
MANSELL Sarah A MANSELL MANSELL WHITE 1863 North Cotswolds Stow-on-the-Wold, Stow-on-the-Wold
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brummiejan
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14 Jan 2013 17:50 |
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1851 England Census about Esabella White Name: Esabella White Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John White Mother's Name: Mary White Gender: F (Female) Where born: Alderton, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Alderton County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Winchcomb Sub-registration district: Guyting ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 72 Piece: 1971 Folio: 264 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age John White 34 Mary White 30 Ann White 9 Esabella White 6 Fany White 4 James White 1
1861 England Census Name: Isabella Mansell Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Mansell Gender: Female Where born: Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Winchcomb Town: Winchcomb County/Island: Gloucestershire
Registration district: Winchcomb Sub-registration district: Guiting
John Mansell 20 Isabella Mansell 18 Ann Jones 17 William Jones 14 Thomas Webb 23
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 17:53 |
1861 England Census Name: John Mansell Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Isabella Mansell Gender: Male Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Winchcomb Town: Winchcomb County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Winchcomb Sub-registration district: Guiting ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 89 Piece: 1792 Folio: 34 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age John Mansell 20 Isabella Mansell 18....born Winchcombe Ann Jones 17 William Jones 14 Thomas Webb 23
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brummiejan
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14 Jan 2013 17:55 |
Right, we do have her
1891 England Census Name: Isabel Kendall Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Kendall Gender: Female Where born: Alderton, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Stow on the Wold Ecclesiastical parish: Stow on the Wold Town: Stow on the Wold County/Island: Gloucestershire
Registration district: Stow On The Wold Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold
Thomas Kendall 67 Isabel Kendall 46 Francis Kendall 13 James Kendall 12 Mary Kendall 8 R J White 34
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 17:58 |
If this is her daughter...............
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Frances Fanny Mansell Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1877 Registration district: Stow on the Wold Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 399
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:01 |
Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
Kendall Thomas Stow on W. 6a 670 Mansell Isabella Stow on the Wold 6a 670
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:02 |
Marriage.............
CURRY Henry KENDALL Isabella North Cotswolds Stow-on-the-Wold Register Office 1893 3 11 CURRY Henry WHITE Isabella North Cotswolds Stow-on-the-Wold Register Office 1893 3 11
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:07 |
1901 England Census
Name: Mary Kendal Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Patient Gender: Female Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Northfield Ecclesiastical parish: Selly Oak St Mary Town: Selly Oak County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England
Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton ED, institution, or vessel: Kings Norton Union Infirmary Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 2809 Folio: 167 Page Number: 7
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brummiejan
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14 Jan 2013 18:11 |
Got her!!
Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%) Curry Isabella King's N. 6c 887 Hickman Alfred Herbert King's N. 6c 887
1901 England Census
Name: Isabella Hickman Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Alfred H Hickman Gender: Female Where born: Winchester, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Smethwick Ecclesiastical parish: Old Church County/Island: Worcestershire
Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Harborne
Alfred H Hickman 49 Isabella Hickman 51 James Mansell 28
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brummiejan
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14 Jan 2013 18:14 |
1911 England Census about Isabella Hickman Name: Isabella Hickman Age in 1911: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation to Head: Lodger Gender: Female Birth Place: Gloucestershire Civil parish: Smethwick County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address: 15 Melbourne Road, Smethwick Marital Status: Widowed Registration district: Kings Norton Registration District Number: 383 Sub-registration district: Smethwick ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Household schedule number: 139 Piece: 17973 Household Members: Name Age John Jephson 55 Alice Jephson 17 Isabella Hickman 65
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:15 |
How old was Henry Curry when they married?
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:19 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Georgiana Mansell Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1865 Registration district: Stow on the Wold Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 339
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:21 |
1871 England Census Name: Georgana Mansel Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Maugersbury Town: Maugersbury County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Stow On The Wold Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 54 Piece: 2655 Folio: 52 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Kendal 45 Isabla Mansel 26 Georgana Mansel 5 William Mansell 3
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ErikaH
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14 Jan 2013 18:22 |
1911 England Census Name: William Mansell Age in 1911: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Stow On The Wold, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 96 Peel Street Winson Grn Birm Marital Status: Married Occupation: Stoker Registration district: Birmingham Registration District Number: 384 Sub-registration district: Lady Woon ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Piece: 18029 Household Members: Name Age William Mansell 43 Eliza Mansell 41 Elsie Mansell 18 Tom Mansell 16 William Mansell 15 Arthur Mansell 13 Gladys Mansell 8 Edward Henry Mansell 4
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Jasmine
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23 Jan 2013 18:47 |
Dear Everyone (who answered my enquiry re my great grandmother, Esabella(and variants)White/Mansell/Kendall/Curry/Hickman) Thank you all very much for all the information you have supplied. This has been a very great help in backing up all the work I have done for many years.
Did you get this information from originals as I used to do before we all had to use the computer, or via computer?
I ask this, as in one case, Isabella (under name of Hickman) was put down as being born in WINCHESTER, Gloucestershire (It should have read WINCHCOMBE,Gloucestershire, as Winchester is in Hampshire. I was also a little worried by LADY WOON. I did find some real howlers in the early digital transcriptions I had to use, like "a member of a grass band"?!
However, All in all, I was very pleased today 23rd Jan 2013 (as I had trouble with not being able access my email provider over the last week - exasperation!!).
Thank you all most heartily for making my day.
Jasmine (great granddaughter of Esabella White)
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