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George Mills born c 1875/76

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Gins

Gins Report 15 Jan 2013 15:44

1881 England Census

Name: Emma Mason
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Mason
Gender: Female
Where born: England

Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Eaton Street
Condition as to marriage: Married


Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road First
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 584
Folio: 109
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Mason 42 <<G Labourer
Emma Mason 36
Charles Mason 16
Edward Mills 14
Emma Mason 13
George Mills 6

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Henry Mason <<Widower
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Emma Mills <<Widow
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Feb 1880
Parish: Lambeth St Andrew <<<<<<< 5 Eaton Street
Borough: Lambeth
Spouse Father Name: George Mccarthy <<Coach builder?
Register Type: Parish Register

Wit: John & Emma Mason. No name for Henry' father, just 'Deceased'

The 1881 census has the same address as the marriage record. Although on the certificate, he claims to be a 'Cooper', which is stretching the truth a little!

Emma has been married before


Marriages Sep 1871
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McCARTHY Emma Holborn 1b 954
MILLS Edwin Odd Holborn 1b 954


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edwin Odd Mills
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1874
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Holbron
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 395

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 11:41

More trouble! theres another Mills child in with the Masons on the 1881 census.
Edward Mills age 14.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 11:34

so looks like the Mason's took him in probably because Ellen couldnt look after him .

It doesnt help that he was a bit older than first thought when trying to find him

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 11:29

this would tie with that baptism
Births Sep 1874
Mills George Pancras 1b 119

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:55

He was illegitimate then! I just found the family on the 1881 census as a mixture of Masons and Mills. Emma Mason is spouse to Henry. I wonder if Ellen was a sister?

Gins

Gins Report 15 Jan 2013 10:45

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: George Mills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegitimate
Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 22 Jul 1874
Mother's Name: Ellen Mills
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:24

Thanks so much will have a look at them. :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 10:23

Births Sep 1875
Mills George Holborn 1b 650

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 10:21

unless you know his mums name its a stab in the dark

??
1891 census
Name: George Mason
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Mason
Mother's Name: Emma Mason
Gender: Male
Where born: Holborn, London, England
Civil parish: St Saviours
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviours
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Saviour Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 342
Folio: 66
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Mason 52
Emma Mason 45
Charles Mason 25
Edwin Mason 28
George Mason 15
Henry J Mason 5
Mary Mason 9
Ellen Mason 11

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 342; Folio: 66; Page: 16; GSU roll: 6095452.


theres a big gap in age between Edwin and George who is a newspaper shop boy

Charles Mason tho is a waterside labourer which George also did similar later on.

You usually had to have family working in the docks to get in . I came from that area and had dockers in the family so am aware what a closed shop it was.

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:18

Catherines Hurleys are a nightmare as well, on the 1901 census the same page as George and Catherine with their small family is another Catherine Hurley Widow living with a Son Jerimiah. My Mother in Law is convinced this is Catherine jnrs Mother, but I can.t find any previous absolute proof as Hurley and various spellings are so common, and Ellen disappeared. The family had memories of a Aunt Ellen who didn't marry but all I've found is an Ellen Hurley in an ophanage and no Catherine and Catherine together as I said a nightmare

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:12

Thats them Cornelius died

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 10:11

no clues here either!
Name: George Mills
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 66 Queens Buildings, Collinson St, Southwark Bridge Rd, Southwark
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Estimated Marriage Year: 1896
Occupation: WATERSIDE LABOURER
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr West
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 1790
Household Members:
Name Age
George Mills 35
Catherine Mills 33
Edwin Joseph Mills 15
Patrick C Mills 9
James J Mills 5
Frederick Mills 1
Matilda M Mills 7
Catherine Mills 3

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 1790; ; .

12 children born 6 died

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:07

Oh and on marriage cert he must have given his name as Mason then it was crossed out and Mills inserted

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:06

Family memories of Mason Great Greats

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 10:04

How do you know the Mason connection if you havent found his family on any census??

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:04

Male witness is illegiable and Female witness is Catherines sister Ellen Hurley [although that family's a nightmare as well!)

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 10:01

I don't think he was ever known as George Frederick

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 10:00

no father on a marriage cert usually means illigitimate.

do the witnesses names give any clues

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Jan 2013 09:59

Grays in Road is Camden which is pancras reg district .

only brith coming up

Births Jun 1875
Mills George Frederick Pancras 1b 49

but he doesnt marry as George Frederick

chappo

chappo Report 15 Jan 2013 09:57

The Father is not on the marriage certificate