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I am desparately looking to find some information about the baptism of two children, both I believe born in Wolverhampton, one in 1837 and one in 1839. I have been unable to trace birth certificates and wonder if there could be records of a baptism. The names of the children are Frances (Fanny) Hevingham 1837 and Thomas Hevingham 1839 - the surname spelling could have been changed, as it seems to have on many ocassions - but if anyone could help, or even point me in the right direction, i would be grateful. On the marriage certificate of Thomas, in 1864 no father;s name appears - so wonder if he could be illigitimate, or maybe father deceased? It seems Frances never married. So if anyone could help, I would be grateful.

Many thanks - Ann Fitter (nee |Hevingham)

If father was deceased he would still be named on cert. I have some like that.

The pair in 1851 - "nurse Child" probably means Foster Child- both born Stafford:

1851 England Census
about Thomas Henngham
Name: Thomas Henngham
[Thomas Hevingham]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Nurse Child (Nurse)
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tettenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 2017
Folio: 107
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Picken 46
Hannah Picken 42
Ann Picken 9
Arthur Picken 4
Sarah Hannah Picken 2
Fanny Henngham 13
Thomas Henngham 11

1881 England Census
about Frances Hevingham
Name: Frances Hevingham
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 139 Herries St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Ladies Companion

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 14b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 89
Folio: 40
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
George Hollis 30
Alice Hollis 27
May A.K.V. Hollis 8
George R.V. Hollis 4
Frances Hevingham 43


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Hi Mike, thats what I wondered, so it might be possible that he is illigitimate, and registered in mothers name, so I could be looking for a female Hevingham? I have a couple who could be possible, born around the right time etc, so I will carry on looking. Thank you for your input

regards - Ann

1901 England Census
about Frances Hevingham
Name: Frances Hevingham
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 174
Folio: 5
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
All Green 37
Rose Green 37
Thomas Green 14
Frances Hevingham 63

1841 - although not listed with Thomas, Fanny is with him. They seem to living in the same building as the Pickens in the 1851 but not in the same household

1841 England Census
about Thomas Henningham
Name: Thomas Henningham
Age: 1 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tettenhall Regis With Tettenhall Clericorum
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton and Seisdon
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 998
Book: 16
Folio: 30
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Henningham 1 6 Mo

Is this him in 1881 ?

Thomas Hevingham 42 - Wolverhampton
Betsey Hevingham 40
Thomas Hevingham 12
Arthur Hevingham 10
Alice Hevingham 4
Florence Hevingham - 10,months

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Thomas Hevingham
Birth 1839 in Stafford
Death November 1886 in Staffordshire

I wonder if this is her on the 1841 she is with the family of Hannah Picken.

1841 England Census
about Fanny Henningham
Name: Fanny Henningham
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tettenhall Regis With Tettenhall Clericorum
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton and Seisdon
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 998
Book: 16
Folio: 30
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Henningham 3

I have the information about the two children being with the Picken family , as "nurse children" and also about Frances being a ladies companion, and as far as I know she died unmarried. I really need to find out who were, and what happened to, their parents, and I just wondered if baptism records might be the way forward

Yes, that is them Mike, wish it was as easy to trace their parents

Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Marks
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jan 1865
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname HEVINGHAM
MotherSurname
Abode Raglan Street
FatherOccupation Porter


County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber 250094
MarriageDate 29 Aug 1837
GroomForename Edward
GroomSurname HAVINGHAM
GroomAge 45
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Carpenter
GroomAbode Wolverhampton
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname GRIFFITHS
BrideAge 37
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation Servant
BrideAbode Wolverhampton
GroomFatherForename Thomas
GroomFatherSurname HAVINGHAM
GroomFatherOccupation Clerk
BrideFatherForename Edward
BrideFatherSurname GRIFFITHS
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Samuel
WitnessOneSurname FIRM
WitnessTwoForename John
WitnessTwoSurname BIDDULPH
Notes Banns; Recorded by J BOYLE


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above link, if they fit anywhere!)

Chris :)

Wonder if this was their mother???????? as this Frances parents are Thomas and Sarah.

parents: Thomas Heaveningham,? Sara

name: Frances Heaveningham
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 09 Aug 1810
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER AND SAINT PAUL-RC,WOLVERHAMPTON,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Heaveningham
mother's name: Sara
indexing project (batch) number: P01537-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 873649

Is this from your tree ?

" My G G Grandfather Thomas Hevingham, was born in Staffordshire in 1839. It seems that when he was 18 months old, he and his sister (Frances) Fanny aged 3, were living with a family called Picken, in Tettenhall Road, Wolverhampton. They were still registered at this address on the 1851 census. Can anyone help with what steps I can take to try and trace the parents?"

Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber 160351
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 02 Aug 1868
Forename Thomas
Sex M
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname HEVENINGHAM
MotherSurname
Abode Darlington Street
FatherOccupation Porter

(looks alternate spelling, as Mel found above)

Chris :)

I would just like to say thank you so much to Chris and Mel, your information has certainly given me something to get my teeth into. I am very excited and the info regarding the marriage of Edward and Mary is something I had not come across before - thank you so very much - I will do some more digging on that one , and as far as Mel's info on Sarah is concerned, thank you, I have wondered about her, and will try and get a little further with that - Mike asked about the info he had found, and yes that is from my tree - I am hoping to spend some time on adding all the other info I have to that tree very soon, thank you all so very much for your help - it means a lot me - thank you

Edward and Mary Havingham in 1841 - if they are Thomas & Frances's parents, I wonder why the children aren't living with them?

1841 England Census
about Edwd Hevingham
Name: Edwd Hevingham
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Hundred: North Seisdon and East Cuttlestone and South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1000
Book: 6
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Edwd Hevingham 45
Mary Hevingham 35

freebmd has a death for Edward Havingham in 1845 and a Mary in 1842

thank you, will look at that one

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1316116

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1316894