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Caroline Brown b1857

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Jean

Jean Report 20 Jan 2013 13:31

My husbands great grandmother was listed as Caroline Willis on the 1901 and 1891 census. However she was not married to Philip Willis and is listed on his death certificate as Caroline Brown, Does any one know if this is her maiden name or a married name?
J Willis

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Jan 2013 13:44

When did Philip die ?
What relationship does it give on cert ?



Is this Caroline in 1911 ?

Caroline Willis
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Southwark, London, England
Civil parish: Newington St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Newington Workhouse, Westmoreland Road, Walworth S E
Marital Status: Widowed #############
Occupation: GENERAL SERVANT
Registration district: Southwark

Gee

Gee Report 20 Jan 2013 13:58

Where does 'Potter' come into this?


1891 England Census
about Alfred Potter
Name: Alfred Potter
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Philip N Willis
Mother's Name: Carolin Willis
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 663
Folio: 81
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Philip N Willis 38
Carolin Willis 38
Henry Willis 3/12
Alfred Potter 5 <<<<<<<I dont know where the transcriber got this from, but he's NOT on the actual census

He's at the top of the page, a different family!


.....and this one

1891 England Census
about Caroline Willis
Name: Caroline Willis
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Philip N Willis
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Chatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 663
Folio: 81
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Philip N Willis 38
Caroline Willis 38
Henry Willis 3/12
William Eggleson 42




Researching:

Gee

Gee Report 20 Jan 2013 14:25

Is the above info the correct Caroline?

And is this Philips death?



Deaths Jun 1897
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Willis Philip Henry 44 Medway 2a 324


You need Henry' birth certificate to check the mothers name


Births Mar 1891
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WILLIS Henry Medway 2a 637

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Mistycat

Mistycat Report 20 Jan 2013 14:41

1911 Caroline and Henry ?? Caroline (someone) has written 12 children born alive....9 dead...3 living...the numbers 2 3 9 have been crossed out to look like only 1 child born...could Caroline have had 11 in the name of Brown?
Also it looks like she has written 3? yrs married, that is also crossed out...could she have put number of yrs from another marriage then realized her mistake.

Name: Caroline Willis
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England, Kent
Civil parish: Gillingham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Virginia Road, Gillingham, Kent
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Laundry Hand
Registration district: Medway
Registration District Number: 47
Sub-registration district: Gillingham

Caroline Willis 54......Widow
Henry Willis 20


1901 England Census
Name: Henry Willis
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son Of Lodger (Lodger)
Gender: Male
Where born: Chatham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Chatham St Mary
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Rochester and Chatham

Mary Melville 64
Henry Melville 31
Caroline Willis 48 .....Seemstress (Shirt)......Widow
Henry Willis 10


Misty x

Jean

Jean Report 1 Feb 2013 12:46

I have Henry's birth cert and it gives the mother as Caroline Willis, which is not true. She obviously took the name but was not married to Philip. There is no record of a marriage or a divorce for Philip, which is why it is so hard to find out Caroline's line.
Jean