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I am not sure if Charles or Joseph are but i am certain of Edward

D'you think Charles and Joseph are children too?

Hi Mark - have we "met" before?

Is there a Charles Smith 1821 and Joseph 1827 or am i wrong connected to Edward Smith 1817

name: Robert Smith
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Jul 1820
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Smith
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: P00599-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93834

Thank you AnnCardiff - How are you :-D

name: Louisa Smith
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 13 Aug 1815
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Smith
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C00599-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93833

possible? this is the christening date

name: Edward Smith
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Jun 1818
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Smith :
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: P00599-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93834

name: Edward Smith
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 44
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Aintree, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: West Derby
sub-district: 5 Litherland
ecclesiastical parish: Litherland
civil parish: Litherland
county: Lancashire

groom's name: Edward Smith
bride's name: Catherine Kirby
marriage date: 27 Feb 1837
marriage place: St. Nicholas', Liverpool, Lancashire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I05861-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1068891

Yes marriage 27/02/1837 Liverpool as noted in my opening post

Have you found record of their marriage?


1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Kirby
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Relation: Mother-in-law
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Lydiate, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Great Crosby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a

Edward Smith 32
Catharine Smith 33
Thomas Smith 13
Richard Smith 10
Elizabeth Smith 7
Ellen Smith 5
Catharine Smith 3
Isabella Smith 1
Elizabeth Kirby 80

Yes that is the family Brummiejan

Is this the one in your tree Mark? (Did a quick check for tree matches!)

1861 England Census
Name: Edward Smith
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Aintree, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Litherland
Ecclesiastical parish: Litherland
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Litherland

Edward Smith 44
Catherine Smith 45
Thomas Smith 23
Elizabeth Smith 13
Catherine Smith 13
Isabella Smith 11
Henry Smith 5
George Carter 15
George Grove Gandeaton 30

A well documented tree online which i have proved.....

Edward 1817 had children

Thomas 1838
Richard 1841
Elizabeth 1844
Ellen 1846
Catherine c1852 <<<< 3x great grandmother
Isabella c1852
Henry 1856

Mark, how did you connect to him?

Do you know any children?

With a name like his would like to shorten the search results!

Afternoon Folks

I am seeking information on Edward Smith 1817-1896 inparticular paretage.

I found his marriage on Lancs OPC

Marriage: 27 Feb 1837 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Edward Smith - Cordwainer of Liverpool
Catherine Kirby - (X), Spinister of Same Parish
Witness: William Calder, (X); Alice Tattersall, (X)
Married by Banns by: Thomas Halton Curate
Register: Marriages 1835 - 1837, Page 263, Entry 1831
Source: LDS Film 93843

Thanks