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Mellor- Oldham census 1911

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Lucy

Lucy Report 24 Jan 2013 22:43

Hello, i am looking for the family of Phyllis, Norman, Alice, Harriet, Olive, John W and Eveline. Their parents were John Robert and Mary Margaret Mellor. Born 1865 and 1867. All threads welcome.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Jan 2013 22:46


1911 England Census about John Robert Mellor
Name: John Robert Mellor
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 43 Station Road Nr Crumpsall
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Blouse Buyer
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 24199
Household Members:
Name Age
John Robert Mellor 47
Mary Margaret Mellor 47 Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Eveline Muad Mellor 21 Birth Place: Sule (says Sale!)
(All below born manchester)
John William Mellor 20
Olive Mellor 17
Harriet Mellor 14
Alice Mellor 13
Norman Bertham Mellor 9
Ronald Victor Mellor 8
Phyllis Mellor 5

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jan 2013 22:57

There were two born a year apart so need to be careful not to mix them up:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Robert Mellor
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1863
Registration district: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 538

and

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Robert Mellor
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1864
Registration district: Oldham
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 489

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Jan 2013 22:59

John's marriage?

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
Chapman Albert Altrincham 8a 279
Cilgram Ellen Altrincham 8a 279
>>>>Mellor John Robert Altrincham 8a 279
>>>>Ward Mary Margaret Altrincham 8a 279

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Jan 2013 23:04

name: John Robert Mellor
event: Marriage
event date: 13 Aug 1888
event place: St Anne, Sale, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
age: 24y
marital status: Single
father: John Mellor
mother:
spouse: Mary Margaret Ward
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: William Ward
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: William Ward

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Jan 2013 23:15

There is also this death which could be for the first of the births MarieCeleste posted earlier:-

Civil registration event: Death

Name: MELLOR, John Robert
Registration district: Oldham
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1863
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 384

Although this death is registered the quarter before the birth, it could still be the same person as a death has to be registered within a few days but a birth can be registered anytime within 6 weeks (and for a couple who have just lost a baby registering a birth is sometimes something that is put off a while).

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jan 2013 23:50

Good find Kath. Could possibly be the same parents if they named the later born child in memory of the one that died.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 25 Jan 2013 00:32

That's what I thought MarieCeleste. Of course the only way of knowing for certain would be to see all of the certificates.

Kath. x

Dea

Dea Report 25 Jan 2013 10:12

From Lancs BMD - shows mothers maiden names - might be useful?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MELLOR John Robert Oldham Below Town Oldham HOYLE OBT/55/297

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MELLOR John Robert Oldham Above Town Oldham KERSHAW OAT/48/285

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MELLOR John Robert Royton Oldham GUEST ROY/16/473

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MELLOR John Robert Oldham Below Town Oldham ROBINSON OBT/66/308

Dea x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Jan 2013 10:52

possible baptism for you John R

Baptisms: 28 Aug 1864 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
John Robert Mellor - Child of John Mellor & Mary Ann
Abode: Newton Street Lower Moor
Occupation: Iron plainer
Baptised by: Wm. Walters
Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1866, Page 187, Entry 1489
Source: LDS Film 1656163

and for elimination purposes

Marriage: 21 Nov 1882 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
John Robert Mellor - 19 Operative Bachelor of 7 Church Street, Royton
Jane Dunkerley - 26 Spinster of 50 Church Street, Royton
Groom's Father: Ralph Mellor, Moulder
Bride's Father: John Dunkerley, Clogger
Witness: Anne Whitehead; Alice Chisnall

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Jan 2013 10:58

and the marriage which matches the baptism and the 1864 birth from lancsbmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MELLOR John ROBINSON Mary Ann Prestwich, St.Mary Bury CE18/23/382

Lucy

Lucy Report 25 Jan 2013 10:59

Thank you all your help, this will certainly give me something to work from.

Lucy

Lucy Report 29 Mar 2013 20:45

Sorry to ask again but if anyone could point me in the right direction to find any descendants of the below members of my family. Apart from Norman I don't seem to be able to find one relative of the next generation.

With thanks Lucy


Household Members:
Name Age
John Robert Mellor 47
Mary Margaret Mellor 47 Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
their children:


Eveline Muad Mellor 21 Birth Place: Sule (says Sale!)
(All below born manchester)
John William Mellor 20
Olive Mellor 17
Harriet Mellor 14
Alice Mellor 13
Norman Bertham Mellor 9
Ronald Victor Mellor 8
Phyllis Mellor 5

Alemap

Alemap Report 29 Mar 2013 21:44

From FMP
Civil registration event: Death
Name: MELLOR, Ronald Victor
Registration district: Norwich
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1977
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:15 February 1903
Volume no: 10
Page no: 1715

From lancashirebmd - free website
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1932
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MELLOR Phyllis COLEMAN Herbert M Burnage, St. Margaret Manchester 34/4/50

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1915
MELLOR Eveline M BROWNJOHN Lewis C Crumpsall, St. Mary Manchester 50/4/11


From familysearch.org - free website
Name: Herbert Michael Coleman
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 02 Apr 1932
Event Place: Manchester, Burnage, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Michael Coleman
Spouse's Name: Phyllis Mellor
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name:John Robert Mellor
GS Film number: 2356095
Digital Folder Number: 004497174
Image Number: 00136

============================================
Name: Norman Bertram Mellor
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Oct 1925
Event Place: Manchester, Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name:John Robert Mellor
Spouse's Name:Enid Marjorie Westoby
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name:Charles Ernest Westoby
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 1408888
Digital Folder Number: 004452308
Image Number: 00663

Lucy

Lucy Report 29 Mar 2013 22:46

Many thanks for your help. This a big step step in the right direction. My father will be pleased since he has no connection with his father's family since 70 years.

Lucy

Lucy Report 6 May 2013 17:36

After much looking, please could you give me some advice how I advance to the next generation? With no census after 1911 this is proving difficult. I would love to know where you find your info... With thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2013 17:57

Hi Lucy, you need to use FreeBMD to find possible marriages, then look for possible offspring from that marriage using the surname and mother's maiden name and so on.

You'll probably need to buy certificates along the way.

Have a look too at some of the sites people have used above.

Lucy

Lucy Report 12 May 2013 07:18

Thank you again MC. I shall follow your advice and look up Lancashire BMD and others.