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Gwyneth

Gwyneth Report 25 Jan 2013 19:08

I am trying to find grandparents named John and Hannah nee Hughes. My dad was named John Owen born 23rdSept. 1914, at this time they lived in Gemig St. St Asaph. This is the only information I have

Flip

Flip Report 25 Jan 2013 20:04

I see your father's birth registration, but do you not know of any of his siblings - to try to narrow down the grandparents marriage?

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Jan 2013 20:07

What is the occupation of John on the birth cert ?

Does either parent have any middle names?

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 25 Jan 2013 21:14

is it possible your grandfathers name was Robert John Williams as there is a marriage to Hannah Jane Hughes in Wrexham, Denbigshire in 1910??

Gwyneth

Gwyneth Report 26 Jan 2013 07:13

G.father was only named as John, who was a gardener at time of registration, Hannah as a domestic. Could possibly be a twin named Peter to my dad. Only info if from dads birth cert

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jan 2013 08:25

What was the address on the birth cert please - was there a house number?

Dea x

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jan 2013 09:05

Any idea when and where the grandparents died, or rough idea of ages at marriage?
Thanks

Added?
(But they are not necessarily married to each other)
Marriages Jun 1900
xxx Hughes Hannah Fanny Ruthin 11b 563
Roberts David Ruthin 11b 563
Williams Edith Selina Ruthin 11b 563
xxx Williams John Ruthin 11b 563

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jan 2013 09:36

This may be the marriage that trailertrash referred to, as family in the 1911, unfortunately wrong profession:
1911 Wales Census
Robert John Williams Age in 1911: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Brymbo, Denbighshire, Wales Civil parish: Broughton
County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales
Street Address: 1 Lower Boat House
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coalminer
Registration district: Wrexham
Registration District Number: 621 Sub-registration district: Wrexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Household schedule number: 185
Piece: 34035
Robert John Williams 23
Hannah Jane Williams 21 married 1 year
Frances Ann Williams 6/12
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 34035; Schedule Number: 185; .

There are John Williams who are gardeners or related in 1911, but not an obvious candidate.

Could she have married as Ann?
Marriages Sep 1911
xxx Hughes Ann St.Asaph 11b 531
Roberts Catherine A St Asaph 11b 531
Williams Edward St Asaph 11b 531
xxx Williams John St Asaph 11b 531
Though John may have married Catherine

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jan 2013 09:48

This is just an example of a gardener in 1911, just Holt is some distance from St Asaph
1911 Wales Census
John Williams Age in 1911: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Holt, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil parish: Holt County/Island: Denbighshire Country: Wales
Street Address: Cross Street Holt
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Market Gardener
Registration district: Wrexham Registration District Number: 621 Sub-registration district: Holt
ED, institution, or vessel: 01 Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 33997
John Williams 32
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 33997; Schedule Number: 25; .

Gwyneth

Gwyneth Report 27 Jan 2013 19:57

The address of g.parents in 1914 was 4gemig St. St Asaph