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Mary Agnes Abbott,

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Georgina

Georgina Report 28 Jan 2013 13:18

Can anyone help me find a death record for my great grandmother Mary Agnes Abbott, she is still alive in the 1911 census, at the age of 63, living with her husband Samuel in Alfreton, Derbyshire, but I can't find any record of when she died. Thanks.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2013 13:26

I did wonder about this, although middle initial is wrong. Do you have a death for Samuel? I see he was 10 years older than Mary according to 1911 census.

???
Name: Mary B Abbott
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 716

Name: Samuel Abbott
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1912
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 602

Jan

Georgina

Georgina Report 28 Jan 2013 13:39

Samuel died in Sept. 1912, the above record is correct for him, not sure about the other one, if she had died in 1913, she would have been 65, not 70.

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2013 13:52

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Samuel Abbott - Accountant
Probate Date: 5 Oct 1912
Death Date: 8 Sep 1912
Death Place: Derbyshire, England
Registry: Derby

£167 17s 1d to Kathleen Abbott spinster

Is this your man?

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Jan 2013 14:07

Seems to be the right man, Gins.

1911 census transcription details for: High Street Alfreton
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN20989 RG78PN1252 RD436 SD5 ED1 SN298
Reg. District: Belper
Sub District: Alfreton
Parish: Alfreton
Enum. District: 1
Address: High Street Alfreton
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ABBOTT, Samuel Head Married M 73 1838 Accountant Alfreton
ABBOTT, Mary Agnes Wife Married
35 years F 63 1848 Liverpool
ABBOTT, Kathleen Dagmar Daughter Single F 27 1884 Housekeeper Alfreton
ABBOTT, Gladys Channock Daughter Single F 23 1888 Housekeeper Alfreton

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Jan 2013 14:10

?? Sorry don't know Derbyshire at all.

Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
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Forenames: Mary
Surname: ABBOTT
Year: 1927
Age: 80
Place of Event: Ilkeston
Reg Office: 396
County: ID/81/034
Register Entry: Mary
Record source: Derbyshire Registrars Death Index
Data provider: Derbyshire Family History Society

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2013 14:18

What about this


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Mary Agnes Abbott Widow
Probate Date: 6 Mar 1926
Death Date: 23 Jan 1926
Death Place: Peterborough, England
Registry: London, England

£410 7s 4d to William Parker railway employee

Forget that, shes not only enough Edit 'old' enough!


Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%)
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Abbott Mary 58 Peterbro' 3b 248

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2013 14:58

Does the probate mean Samuel left everything to Kathleen Abbott ? And nothing to his wife?
Jan

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2013 15:05

Jan

It does say: Administration (with Will) Derby 5

Not sure what the 5 stands for? It could be that his wife is left something in the Will, so maybe a copy of that would shed some light

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 28 Jan 2013 15:11

This one is the correct age but not in belper, Basford is not far away

Deaths Mar 1931
Abbott Mary A 83 Basford 7b 351

Roy

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2013 15:18

What about this? I know the age is wrong so it would have to be an error. But it might help to get Samuel's will as Gins suggested, so at least you know where she was living.

Name: Mary A Abbott
Birth Date: abt 1858
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 637

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2013 15:19

Or even this one


Deaths Jun 1916
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Abbott Mary A 64 Basford 7b 258


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 28 Jan 2013 15:20

The other thing is her daughter doesn't appear to have married. There is a probate for her 1947, maybe someone can check it out? Or is it too late?

Interestingly she died in Portsmouth:

Deaths Sep 1947 (>99%)
Abbott Shirley W 58 Portsmouth 6b 317

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2013 15:48

Thats defo her daughter as Mary' maiden name was 'Wray'


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Shirley Wray Abbott <<of 120 Mayles Road Milton
Probate Date: 5 Dec 1947
Death Date: 26 Sep 1947
Death Place: Portsmouth
Registry: London, England

£983 19s 2d to Violet Mabel Abbott, widow

Georgina

Georgina Report 28 Jan 2013 15:52

Thank you everyone, a lot of confusing info but at least it might help me make progress.