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John Smith McKeand 1853 -1937
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Eringobragh1916 | Report | 11 May 2013 22:47 |
You could try sending AnnMac a PM (personal message) just click on her name... |
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Unknown | Report | 11 May 2013 21:06 |
David McKeand is my line, he was born in Borgue, and his 2 brothers were also Policemen in Toxteth Park, his brother James is my 2x Gr. Grandfather and we have his burial in Toxteth Park. James' father was William married to Mary Hair and staying at Senwick, buried at Twynholm, and Williams father was Alexander, which at the moment I am presuming is the Alexander at Upper Senwick in the1841 Census. Alexander was married to Mary Dowall but I have looked for a few years and am convinced John Smith McKeand is related as I find it hard to believe they all went from Kirkcudbrightshire to Liverpool and joined the police force and are not related. I did read somewhere years ago that John Smith McKeand walked from Kirkcudbrightshire to Liverpool but can't remember where I found this info. Will keep digging |
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AnnMac | Report | 31 Jan 2013 14:55 |
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Eringobragh1916 | Report | 30 Jan 2013 17:45 |
You should be able to get some info from the site I listed yesterday regarding his service ..appears to be his ?enlistment looking at the dates. Given that his marriage was Reg.Garstang and Mary came from Shirehead I would be looking at that area... |
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AnnMac | Report | 30 Jan 2013 16:19 |
Oh dear! Fancy discovering your great grandfather was a party pooper who closed down brass bands! Not sure I want to go on tryin gto find out when and where he was born and who his parents were after that! :-( |
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Eringobragh1916 | Report | 30 Jan 2013 12:07 |
Dont know if you have this...(Actual Transcripts of case held at Preston Archives) |
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rootgatherer | Report | 30 Jan 2013 11:03 |
Unknown, sorry yes it was Jane Smith McKend birth that I looked at. The parents were definately John and Elizabeth. From that record John, the father was 43 so he had married when he was 20. Elizabeth may have been a couple of years younger so not impossible to be having children in the 1850s? Both my mother and my sister didn't have their first child until they were 25 and there is 21 years between the eldest and youngest child of both those marriages. |
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AnnMac | Report | 29 Jan 2013 22:03 |
Rootgatherer - I'm really grateful but a tad confused! |
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Eringobragh1916 | Report | 29 Jan 2013 19:23 |
This may help....So he was certainly in the Lancashire area at that time... You can send for his details on this link... |
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rootgatherer | Report | 29 Jan 2013 18:40 |
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rootgatherer | Report | 29 Jan 2013 18:17 |
Looked at that Birth on SP |
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AnnMac | Report | 29 Jan 2013 18:15 |
I fear I have already searched in Liverpool in 1871 and 1861 (in case my chap came as child with his family) but no joy. There is a scottish born David McKeand policeman and family living quite close to where my family was (West Derby and Toxteth Park keep cropping up as locations for my grandmother and her sisters)- but they are the wrong forename, age and offspring's names to be my ancestor himself. I was considering checking out if this might be an uncle or cousin who struck out from the home country and sent back good news so a younger relative followed in his career footsteps. |
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Eringobragh1916 | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:58 |
If you do a quick search for McKeand...Lancashire 1871 onwards....(use search on this site) you will see there are a couple or more McKeand's listed for Toxteth Park and West Derby from Kirk./Dumfries...It may be worthwhile looking initially at Liverpool for other family if you havent already done so.... |
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rootgatherer | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:55 |
This is from Scotlandspeople website showing what you can expect to see on a Statutory birth record. |
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AnnMac | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:51 |
Rootgather again. Thanks for the suggestion of looking for a possible sibling in the 1855 births because they give such good level of detail. I'm afraid i already tried that - can't honestly remember now what I found and I seem to have lost my notes - but it didn't get me to the answer I'm looking for. The amazing thing I'm learning from all these dead ends tho' is the curiuos family set ups that there were in those days - kids produced in eye watering numbers, offspring parked with relatives and daughters sent into domestic service at very young ages. It's hiostory in the raw, even iof it isn't my exact ancestors! |
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rootgatherer | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:50 |
I posted that census showing the John McKeand born 1851 just to eliminate as he seems from that correction on Ancestry to have died in Canada - so he can't be yours. |
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AnnMac | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:43 |
Rootgatherer. Not sure I quite understand your post . This help is coming in so thick and fast I can't keep up! If the John McKeand you've found died in Canada then He can't be my 1853 born gt grandfather becuase he died in wirral Cheshire in 1937. Am I safe to ignore that possible line of enquiry or am I being dense? |
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rootgatherer | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:30 |
Might be worth checking out that 1855 birth for Jane Smith McKeand on Scotlandspeople. I think the 1855 entries give more info than later ones. |
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AnnMac | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:29 |
Thank you everyone for these suggestions. |
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rootgatherer | Report | 29 Jan 2013 17:27 |
This is the John born in 1851 |
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