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Williamina Ewing and William Wilson Shand

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Susanne

Susanne Report 2 Feb 2013 13:32

Thank you for your for help and suggestions. I have done many of my family trees and helped so many with there families but ive found this side of my dads so awkward as i said before with so many children born out of wedlock, I have worked very hard on this side managed to find a lot, I was given the marriage of William Wilson Shand by a very nice lady in Aberdeen. Also ive tried to find the dad of my grandma who was known as Mary Mackie Shand so he must have been a Mackie. She was one of 4 children with different dads i have founf them.
Susanne

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Feb 2013 11:02

Susanne probably discovered that William Wilson Shand had married from his DC. Scottish ones have more info than the English and Welsh versions.

http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/research/deaths-1856-present.html

The following information can be found on death certificates 1856 onwards.

— Name and surname of deceased

— Occupation

— Marital status

— If married the name of the spouse

— When and where died

— Sex

— Age

— Name, surname and occupation of father

— Name and maiden surname of mother

— If parents are deceased

— Cause of death

— Signature, address (if not where death occurred) and relation of informant

— Where and when the death was registered and the signature of registrar

There's a labelled example of a couple from 1881 here

http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/SP%204%201881%20D.pdf

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Feb 2013 10:41

A couple by those names were married in Aberdeenshire in 1915 according to SP.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Jan 2013 08:28

If you don't know when/where he married, where did you get the 'info' about his wife's name?

Susanne

Susanne Report 31 Jan 2013 04:53

Hi,
Thank you folk. William Wilson Shand i dont know when he married . All i know is he married Jane Milton and that he died 7-12-1935 at Fyvie aberdeen. Informant at death was george Law Fowlie - brother in law. Also i noticed on a Mcrobbie census their was another daughter i didnt know existed Margaret Mcrobbie or Maggie?
This family on Dads mums side is so confusing so many children out of wedlock to Jane and margaret Shand. There is more but been able to find a bit more on them.
Susanne

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jan 2013 22:51

That 1901 info is on the other thread.............

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Jan 2013 22:20


1901 census transcription details for: Gordon Terrace Gordon's Property, Premnay
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 234
Folio: 4
Page: 11
Reg. District: Premnay
Sub District:
Parish: Premnay
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Gordon Terrace Gordon's Property, Premnay
County: Aberdeenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
COUTTS, William Head Married M 32 1869 Ploughman And Carter On Farm
Huntly, Aberdeenshire
COUTTS, Jane Wife Married F 33 1868
Kennethmont, Aberdeenshire
EWEN, Williamina Step Daughter F 12 1889 Scholar
Insch, Aberdeenshire
COUTTS, William Son M 8 1893 Scholar
Premnay, Aberdeenshire
COUTTS, George Son M 6 1895 Scholar
Premnay, Aberdeenshire
COUTTS, James Son M 4 1897
Premnay, Aberdeenshire
COUTTS, John Son M 2 1899
Inverurie, Aberdeenshire
COUTTS, Alexander Son M 1 1900
Premnay, Aberdeenshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jan 2013 16:58

Linked

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1317056

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jan 2013 16:30

1891 Scotland Census

Name: William Shand
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Male
Where born: Kenethmont, Aberdeensh
Registration number: 234
Registration district: Premnay
Civil parish: Premnay
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Edingarrock
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 22
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1891_71

Household Members: Name Age
James Emslie 68
Agnes Booth 60
Mary Reid 25
David Tough 25
William Shand 17
John Touton 16


Susanne

When/where did William W Shand marry? I cant see him on 1901 census?

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jan 2013 16:29

1881 Scotland Census

Name: William Shand
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Kennethmont, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 212
Registration district: Kinnethmont
Civil parish: Kinnethmont
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Muir Of Seggieden
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 21
Roll: cssct1881_62

Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Shand 38
Margaret Mitchell 13
Ann Glennie 10
John Cruickshank 4
Jane Shand 30
George Smart 11
William Shand 7
James Stirling 3


mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Jan 2013 16:20

Yeah Ann, it's a pity the FS censuses don't put the whole h/h together on their UK transcriptions like they do on their US ones. Only England & Wales 1871/81 are really of much use. Anyways here's the Scottish 1891 h/h:

WILLIAM MCROBBIE 1857 34 HEAD
JANE S MCROBBIE 1852 39 WIFE
JAMES SHAND 1878 13 STEP SON
MARY ANN MCROBBIE 1884 7 DAUGHTER
MAGGIE MCROBBIE 1888 3 DAUGHTER
HELLEN I MCROBBIE 1891 0 DAUGHTER
WILHELMINA EWEN 1889 2 GRAND STEP DAUGHTER

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Jan 2013 10:52

name: Wilhelmina Ewen
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Female
age: 2
birthplace: Aberdenshire
registration district: Insch
county: Aberdeenshire
estimated birth year: 1889
film number: 208679

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 30 Jan 2013 10:46

William Wilson Shand's birth from www.familysearch.org ????


name: William Wilson Shand
gender: Male
birth date: 28 Dec 1873
birthplace: KENNETHMONT,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
mother's name: Jane Shand
indexing project (batch) number: C11212-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jan 2013 10:42

To find any possible marriage, you will have to use Scotland's people website.

It is pay-to-view, so lookups are not an option

You have given no date info with regard to the second part of your request...............

Have you asked about this family before?

The location seems very familiar..........

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 30 Jan 2013 10:39

BMD records are probably on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which is a pay to view site. Have you looked there?

On a free search, there's one death match for 1915 - 1940, for Williamina but no exact marriage match with the spelling you've given

Susanne

Susanne Report 30 Jan 2013 10:33

Could anyone help me with Williamina Ewing born 1889 Insch Aberdeen. she was the daughter of Jane Ewing and stepdaughter of William Coutts.
did she go on to marry and have family?
Also Jane Ewing above mentioned above had a half brother mother Jane Shand and dad William Wilson. His name is William Wilson Shand born Kennethmont Aberdeen he married a Jane Milton cannot find if they had family.Thank you
Susanne