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Help I can't find Granddad on any census.

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Mary

Mary Report 31 Jan 2013 13:26

Dad WilliamGoddard alive 1899 on Franks marriage??

1911 52,Lincoln Road Ponders End Middlesex.
Edward francis Bouldstridge born 1869 Clerkenwell a Working Jeweller
Edith his wife born Sheffield 1869 nee ( Hollingsworth)married 1892
Caroline Goddard 63 wifes sister a widow says born Sheffield!

Edith Ellen Goddard 1874 Sheffield married 1890 Islington to George William Brooks,can't find them on 1891

1901 Highbury D37 > 17
Edith Brooks nee (Goddard)
William Brooks a carpenter they went to Canada 1910.
James Godard brother in law born 1869 Sheffield a carpenter.
1901 Frank Goddard
Highbury D33 > 10.

1911 64,King Edward Road Ponders End Middlesex(same area as mum Caroline)
James Goddard 1869 a carpenter
Wife Clara married 5years.

can't find William and Caroline in 1891/1901

Maryb.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jan 2013 13:47

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: BOULDSTRIDGE, Edward Francis
Address: 53 Lincoln Road Ponders End

BOULDSTRIDGE, Edward Francis Head Married M 42 1869 Working Jeweller Clerkenwell London VIEW
BOULDSTRIDGE, Edith Wife Married19 years F 42 1869 Sheffield VIEW
BOULDSTRIDGE, Leonard Son Single M 18 1893 Electrical Engineer Islington London VIEW
BOULDSTRIDGE, Edith May Daughter Single F 15 1896 Electrical Fitter Highbury London VIEW
BOULDSTRIDGE, Dorothy Gladys Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Highbury London VIEW
GODARD, Caroline Sister In Law Widow F 63 1848 Sheffield VIEW
(Goddard on the image)<<<<<
RG number: RG14
Piece: 7422
Reference: RG14PN7422 RG78PN358 RD132 SD6 ED15 SN26
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub District: Enfield
Enumeration District: 15
Parish: Enfield
Address: 53 Lincoln Road Ponders End
County: Middlesex


Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
BOULDSTRIDGE Edward Francis Islington 1b 535
Hollingsworth Edith Islington 1b 535

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jan 2013 13:59

Caroline and Edith appear together on the 1871 census posted on page 1.





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jan 2013 14:05

??

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Caroline Goddard
Name: Caroline Goddard
Birth Date: abt 1848
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 209

Mary

Mary Report 31 Jan 2013 14:21

1871 Bradford Guisborough D 29 > 17
William Goddard a lodger married born leicestershire 1848 a Haidresser.

Maryb.

Mary

Mary Report 31 Jan 2013 14:52

Edith E Brookes nee Goddard
1891 Highbury D34 >16 52,Ashburton grove??
William G Brooker (Brookes)on original 1869 islington a photographic cabinet maker
Edith E born Sheffield 1872
William 1 month

Maryb

Abbigail

Abbigail Report 31 Jan 2013 15:12

I found him.... I searched for
Forename -Frank william
Surname - Goddard
Year of birth - 1889 but i put 5 yrs give or take
Region - England
County - all
maiden - hollingsworth

It popped up straight away - Goddard Frank William 1889 Islington London

Hope this helps :)

McAlp

McAlp Report 1 Feb 2013 12:15

Apologies for not coming back to this yesterday.
but thank you everyone for your time.

Pricklyholly
I shall order the marriage certificate for William and Caroline and see where that leads me.
And the death for Caroline.

Mary
It says on William and Eliza's marriage certificate
that William senior was deceased in 1918.

I can't tie that William in the Yorkshie Army
when we have his record for the Essex Regiment

enlisted 21 October 1911
discharged 21 April 1919

So it can't be possible that he was in two regiments at the same time.

Thanks again everyone.
Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Feb 2013 13:34

Who says he was in two regiments at the same time.

1911 census taken on 2/3 April

Enlisted on 21 Oct 1911

So 6 months between dates

McAlp

McAlp Report 1 Feb 2013 22:52

Hi GlitterBaby
Sorry for the confusion but Andrew found a Frank Goddard born 1891 with the 3rd Res Battalion Yorkshire Regiment

But we know he spent 8 years with the 3rd Essex
it's not possible to join up with the 3rd Yorkshire in April
and then join the 3rd Essex in October 1911 is it ?
Ann

Joy Kentish Maid

Joy Kentish Maid Report 1 Feb 2013 23:13

O/T - but just wanted to say hello :)

Mary

Mary Report 2 Feb 2013 09:46

Why can't I find his military records??It seems you all have.

Maryb.

McAlp

McAlp Report 2 Feb 2013 11:56

Hi Joy :-)
A name from the past.

McAlp

McAlp Report 2 Feb 2013 12:01

Mary

When he joined the army he used his orginal name
Frank William.

But by 1918 when he married Eliza he had change his names around and became
William Frank.

They don't make it easy for us do they ?
Ann

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Feb 2013 22:00

Very odd that William and Caroline had two children called Frank.

Or have i got that wrong?

McAlp

McAlp Report 3 Feb 2013 15:28

Holly
I wondered about that too, it's possible I surpose
that the first Frank died and then they went on to have another boy which they also named Frank, it seems to have happened a lot back then didn't it.
As of yet I have not found a death for the first Frank
so I may just be going down another
wrong path, story of my life:-)
Ann

wisechild

wisechild Report 3 Feb 2013 16:17

During WW1 it was very common for soldiers to be moved from one regiment to another to "make up the numbers" when the regiments had been badly depleted by deaths.
Generally it didn´t seem to matter whether there was any connection to the "new" regiment. So the fact that he started off in the Essex regiment, doesn´t mean he was necessarily still with them later in the war, or at the end of his service.

McAlp

McAlp Report 3 Feb 2013 21:58

Hi Wisechild

Thanks but I think what the others are saying
he would have started with the Yorkshires
and served his time with the Essex.

Not started with the Essex
And we have his medals and his record with the Essex
from 1911 to 1919.
But you make a very valid point.
Ann