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William McKenna Paterson - Newcastle (Re Jobling?)

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Linda

Linda Report 30 Jan 2013 17:33

Hi! Please can anyone with knowledge of relatives of the above (within Newcastle upon Tyne) help?

Does anyone out there know of the above, who died aged 39 on 6 March 1933?

William McKenna Paterson: is the first person in a grave (my aunt then grandparents followed after him) at St Andrews Cemetery, Great North Road Newcastle upon Tyne. I have no idea who he is.

My Aunt is Elizabeth Ann Coulson - deceased August 1947 at 38 y/o - daughter of
My Grandfather is John William Jobling - deceased 16 Jan 1956 at 68 y/o
My Grandmother is Sarah Ann Jobling - deceased 16 April 1956 at 68 y/o

It would be really helpful to know if he is related to my other family members.

Thanking you in anticipation :-D

Linda Colback (nee Dunlavy)

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 Jan 2013 18:11

His death cert may shed some light.


Deaths Mar 1933
Paterson William M 39 Newcastle T. 10b 121

patchem

patchem Report 30 Jan 2013 18:12

Have you looked to see if anyone on here has him in their tree?

patchem

patchem Report 30 Jan 2013 18:15

Born Scotland?
1901 England Census
William M K Paterson Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Paterson
Mother's Name: Mary Paterson
Gender: Male Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Westgate Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 88 Piece: 4766
Folio: 68 Page Number: 14
Robert Paterson 35
Mary Paterson 22
John Paterson 15
Ann C Paterson 13
Martha Paterson 12
William M K Paterson 7
Christina W Paterson 2
Robert R Paterson 8 Months
Francis M Allen 23
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4766; Folio: 68; Page: 14.

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

patchem

patchem Report 30 Jan 2013 18:26

?
Marriages Dec 1915
Paterson William McK Ramm Newcastle T. 10b 153
Ramm Henrietta Paterson Newcastle T. 10b 153

Children from this marriage, and Henrietta Ramm, are in peoples' trees on this site.

Linda

Linda Report 30 Jan 2013 18:43

Thank you Mike - I simply don't know that I'm doing... no clue, but I need to find this one out before proceeding further.

Thank you so much patchem - I did put his name in but nothing at all came up (ah, Scotland did and I looked no further).

So these are great starts for me - I'll check them out. I really don't have a clue how to use any of this... apologies. Your help is much appreciated :-D

Best to both of you!

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 30 Jan 2013 21:29

This is the same man from the 1901 return with his 2 older sisters:

1911 England Census
about William Paterson
Name: William Paterson
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mid Lothian Leith
Civil parish: Elswick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 43 Noble St Elswick Newcastle On Tyne
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: River Heater
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: Elswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 30591
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Paterson 23
Martha Paterson 21
William Paterson 17


Linda

Linda Report 30 Jan 2013 22:09

Thank you Anne - I simply don't know what to do about this - those names do indeed appear against Robert Paterson (the Father, originally from Leith Scotland) in other places.

I have no idea if this person is related to my family members in that grave. I intend to get a small pot/stone/memorial and it would be terrible to 'leave him out' of that gesture if he's related.

A son of Elizabeth Ann Coulson (now over 70) has never heard of this person either. Maybe he went into the grave in 1933 and it lay empty until - out of many others - it 'became available' for others? Who can tell, eh?

Thanks very much for your help Ann.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 31 Jan 2013 09:54

I think it would be an idea to contact the cemetery and find out who owns the lair and when it was purchased.

Linda

Linda Report 31 Jan 2013 13:14

Thanks again Anne. The grave is owned by the Local Authority; so far as I know, it was not purchased by family of those in it. Approximately half of the graves are unmarked and its a lovely cemetery in a wonderful location. I'll ring the LA to clarify - thank you!

As the youngest grandchild (living, since the demise of my grandparents), I've long wanted to 'do something'. I am reassured that the cemetery is pretty much full and that no plans exist to 'do anything with it', so I'd like to make some memorial gesture... before I 'go'.

Linda

Linda Report 1 Feb 2013 13:00

Thanks again Anne. The LA has suggested that, as the first person in, WIlliam McKenna Paterson may have nothing at all to do with my other family members. I will keep on looking, right up to the moment of purchase... would be awful to leave him out :-(

As stated above, this field is, it seems, something you really have to get into; little dives in, here and there, don't seem to work well. I keep saying, "One day"...,