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31 Jan 2013 15:33 |
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Name: John W. Neal Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Grandchild Mother's Name: Nancy Neal Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Redbourn County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: High Street Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: Harpenden ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1430 Folio: 66 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Neal 88 Carpenter Susan Neal 52 Unmarried Nancy Neal 50 Unmarried Florence E. Neal 10 Grandchild John W. Neal 8 Grandchild
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Deaths Mar 1875 NEAL Joseph 35 St Geo Han Sq 1a 364
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Births Sep 1872 NEAL John William London City 1c 53
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31 Jan 2013 15:32 |
Good to find you are sorted Anne. :-)
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Anne
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31 Jan 2013 15:22 |
Very happy with the response i got. Thank you all once again Anne
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31 Jan 2013 15:11 |
Name: Elizabeth Ann Crabb Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Joseph Neal, Messenger Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 May 1867 Parish: St Andrew Holborn Borough: City of London Father Name: James Crabb , Cabriolet Proprietor Spouse Father Name: John Neal, Carpenter Register Type: Parish Register
Address for both Jockey's Fields
Witnesses James Crabb and Emma Neal
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31 Jan 2013 15:07 |
The 1881 census address you kindly sent matches the address I have on the 1891. I did believe Nancy Neal was the mother of John Brilliant. Gratefully Anne
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2013 15:05 |
I would venture to suggest that this is the clincher
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Albert Joseph Neal Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Age: 23 Spouse Name: Leah Hart Spouse Age: 24 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 Nov 1891 Parish: St Andrew Holborn Borough: City of London Father Name: Joseph Neal Spouse Father Name: Ralph Hart Register Type: Parish Register
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31 Jan 2013 15:04 |
1871 England Census about Joseph Neal Name: Joseph Neal Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: East Neal Gender: Male Where born: Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Household schedule number: 90 Piece: 46 Folio: 12 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Neal 30 East Neal 35****************image is E A Joseph Neal 2 Florence Neal 10 Months
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31 Jan 2013 15:03 |
A tree on Ancestry has a John W Neal born 1872 London with parents Joseph Neal (b. 1841) and Elizabeth Ann Crabbe (b. 1835)
No sources though.
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31 Jan 2013 14:58 |
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%) Botham Ann W.London 1c 89 CRABB Elizabeth Ann W. London 1c 89 GATES Job W. London 1c 89 NEAL Joseph W. London 1c 89
BUT............you MUST verify, by getting AT LEAST one of the sons' marriage certs
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2013 14:56 |
This is a suggestion ONLY, based on age and birthplace.................as she's a widow, one would have to question John's birth
1881 England Census about Elizabeth Ann Neel Name: Elizabeth Ann Neel [Elizabeth Ann Neal] [Elizabeth Ann Crabb] Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Ann Crabb Gender: Female Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St George Martyr County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 16 Jockeys Fields Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Occupation: No Occupation Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 339 Folio: 54 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Ann Crabb 70 born Kingsthorpe Northants Elizabeth Ann Neel 46
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31 Jan 2013 14:55 |
Thank you for all who took the trouble to try and help me find out Elizabeth maiden name Anne
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2013 14:53 |
Proving elusive in 1871................
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31 Jan 2013 14:50 |
name: Albert Neal age: 12 gender: Male birth year: 1869 birthplace: London, Middlesex, England relationship to head of household: Nephew marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Albert Road census place: St Albans, Hertfordshire, England
head John Newell M 33 St Albans, Hertfordshire, England wife Emma Newell F 38 Redbourn, Hertfordshire, England daughter Edith E Newell F 4 St Albans, Hertfordshire, England nephew Albert Neal M 12 London, Middlesex, England
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PricklyHolly
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31 Jan 2013 14:49 |
I have to pop out Anne but i will check back on here later.
Prickles.
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31 Jan 2013 14:48 |
Albert in 1881
Name: Albert Neal Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Albans County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: Albert Road Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: St Albans ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1432 Folio: 58 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age John Newell 33 Emma Newell 38 Edith E. Newell 4 Albert Neal 12 Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barber John St Alban's 3a 345 Goodgame Selina St Alban's 3a 345 Neal Emma St. Alban's 3a 345 Newell John St Alban's 3a 345
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Anne
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31 Jan 2013 14:45 |
Thank you .
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2013 14:39 |
Now look for a possible marriage......................
................or buy the son's birth cert (if it was registered)
Failing that.........if the sons married, they should name their father on the marriage certs
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2013 14:38 |
1841 England Census Name: John Neal Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Redbourn Hundred: Cashio County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: Harpenden Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 438 Book: 18 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Neal 45 Ann Neal 40 Susan Neal 14 Ann Neal 12 Henry Neal 10 Amiel Neal 8 John Neal 3 Emma Neal 1
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31 Jan 2013 14:37 |
1851 England Census Name: John Neal Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795 Relation: Head Gender: M (Male) Where born: Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Redbourn Town: Redbourn County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: Harpenden ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 1713 Folio: 136 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age John Neal 56 Susannah Neal 26 Emma Neal 11 Joseph Neal 9 Charles Neal 7 Caroline Neal 5
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31 Jan 2013 14:36 |
1861 England Census Name: Nancy Neal Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Neal Gender: Female Where born: Redbourn, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Redbourn County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: Harpenden ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 18 Piece: 828 Folio: 23 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John Neal 64 Susan Neal 33 Nancy Neal 31 Emma Neal 20 Charles Neal 16 Charles Mitchell 30
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