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I am looking for Matthew on the above two census. Born 1810 Auckland district, Co Durham. He married Elizabeth Moor in 1832 at St Andrews church Auckland. They had Jane baptised 1833. Elizabeth died 1843 and Matthew remarries Isabella Oates at St Helens church, Auckland. They had at least one son called Thomas born 1847 (I got this bit off the 1881 census) and there is a daughter called Isabella born 1849. On the 1851 census on FMP index there is an Isabella in Auckland region. Could someone please take a look at both census. Thank you.

1851 England Census
about Matthew Hull
Name: Matthew Hull
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Hull
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bishop Auckland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Auckland St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Helen
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 2385
Folio: 408
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Hull 38
Isabella Hull 38
Elizabeth Oates 11
Mary Ann Hull 5
Isabella Hull 3
Matthew Hull 6 Mo




Andy

I couldn't find him on the 1841 Census ..... I did however find an Isabella Oates with husband on the 1841.

That leads me to believe that Isabella was a widow when Matthew married her



I also found the following from a Public Family Tree .................... which of course has to be checked out very carefully before you accept it all as true.




MATTHEW HULL
Birth 28 July 1810 in Bishop Auckland.England
Death 27 November 1885 in St Helen Auckland, Durham, England


Parents

JOHN HULL 1782 – 1850
MARY ELGEY 1776 –

Spouse & Children

Elizabeth Moor 1810 – 1833

Jane Hull 1833 –

Spouse & Children

ISABELLA DAVISON 1812 – 1886

Mary Ann Hull 1846 – 1899
Isabella Hull 1849 – 1932
Matthew Hull 1850 – 1919
EDWARD HULL 1853 – 1922




sylvia

Matthew Hull
Birth 28 July 1810 in St Andrew, Auckland, Durham

parents
John Hull 1782 –
Mary Elgee

It IS Oates on the image


1841 Census

Name: Isabella Cater
[Isabella Oates]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: St Andrew Auckland
Hundred: Darlington (North West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishops Auckland

Name Age
Edward Cater 40 Labourer
Isabella Cater 30
John Cater 4
Elizabeth Cater 2


Remember that the ages of the two adults could be as much as 4 years too young.




sylvia

Thank you all for the above. Isabella was a widow when she married Matthew, she was married to Edward Oates who died. John and Mary are Matthew's parents. I am always very cautious about Ancestry trees because most of the ones I look at are mostly wrong. Thnaks again. :-) I will keep looking for them in 1841.

from www.familysearch.org/


Matthew Hull, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

groom's name: Matthew Hull
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Isabella Oates
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 03 May 1845
marriage place: St. Helen'S Auckland, Durham, England
groom's father's name: John Hull
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: William Davison
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Widowed
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Widowed
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01233-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894174
reference number: cn 273 p137
Citing this Record

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNVC-CVZ : accessed 31 Jan 2013), Matthew Hull and Isabella Oates, ; citing St. Helen'S Auckland, Durham, England, reference cn 273 p137; FHL microfilm 1894174.




sylvia

Marian


you are quite right to be wary of ancestry trees .......... but you can always use them as a guide!

Sylvia, how on earth do you find these entries when they are so badly transcribed?

from familysearch



England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Mary Ann Hull

christening 10 Mar 1846 St. Helen, Auckland, Durham, England
residence Auckland-St. Helen, Durham, England

parents Mattw. Hull, Isabella Oates

Do you have the 1861 and 1871 censuses?


1861 Census

Name: Matthew Hull
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Hull
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishop Auckland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Auckland St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen Auckland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland

Matthew Hull 50
Isabella Hull 48
John Oates 23 Stepson
Mary Ann Hull 15
Isabella Hull 12
Matthew Hull 10
Edward Hull 8
William Bowes 23 Boarder



sylvia

Marian


they are beautifully transcribed on family search!








sylvia

1871 Census

Name: Mathew Hull
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Hull
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Cap, Durham, England
Civil parish: St Helen Auckland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen Auckland
Town: St Helen Auckland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland

Mathew Hull 65 Groom
Isabella Hull 58
Edward Hull 18 Machinist
John E O Edmondson 4 Grandson
William Shaw 19 Lodger Account Keeper




sylvia

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "


groom's name: Edwin Clarke
groom's birth date: 1852
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 24
bride's name: Isabella Hull
bride's birth date: 1849
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 27
marriage date: 05 Nov 1876
marriage place: St. Helen, Auckland, Durham, England
groom's father's name: William Clarke
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Matthew Hull
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I05164-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894175
reference number: p 34
Citing this Record

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNVZ-9M7 : accessed 31 Jan 2013), Edwin Clarke and Isabella Hull, ; citing St. Helen, Auckland, Durham, England, reference p 34; FHL microfilm 1894175.

??????????? son Matthew's marriage????

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

groom's name: Matthew Hull
groom's birth date: 1851
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Elizabeth Holden
bride's birth date: 1851
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 20
marriage date: 13 Feb 1871
marriage place: St. Helen, Auckland, Durham, England
groom's father's name: Matthew Hull
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Thomas Holden
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I05164-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894175
reference number: p 217
Citing this Record

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNVC-VZF : accessed 31 Jan 2013), Matthew Hull and Elizabeth Holden, ; citing St. Helen, Auckland, Durham, England, reference p 217; FHL microfilm 1894175.

??? Edward's marriage


"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

groom's name: Edward Hull
groom's birth date: 1853
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 28
bride's name: Elizabeth Wright Rumford
bride's birth date: 1858
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 23
marriage date: 08 Aug 1881
marriage place: Darlington, Durham, England
groom's father's name: Matthew Hull
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Cuthbert Rumford
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M00766-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894190
reference number: p 201, no 401
Citing this Record

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNVN-NXP : accessed 31 Jan 2013), Edward Hull and Elizabeth Wright Rumford, ; citing Darlington, Durham, England, reference p 201, no 401; FHL microfilm 1894190.

Thank you for the 1861/1871 census. I didn't have these. I've just realised I was looking at the wrong entry for 1881 because it says Isabel is a widow and that she was born 1825. I've now found the right entry and there is only Matthew and Isabella. :-)

It looks like John E O Edmondson is the child of Elizabeth Oates



Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)

Edmondson John Auckland 10a 155
Oates Elizabeth Auckland 10a 155






sylvia

The name(s) must be really badly transcribed on the 1841 ............ at least on ancestry.

There is just no sign of Matthew!

I may go to the local library at the weekend and trawl through all the Matthews , no surname, who knows, I might strike lucky :-)