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Charles Ernest Clark born c1883 was in the RMLI

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 17 Feb 2013 11:25

Hello, am now looking for what happened to the siblings of Charles Ernest Clark and am wondering if anyone can help please.

George Alfred Clark born 17 July 1885, Muree Hills, India. In 1901 Census he is living in Essex.

Sidney Walter Clark born 15 November 1887 in Peshawar, India. In 1911 Census he is living in Essex.

Catherine A Clark born 1892 in Essex. Nothing further on her.

Agness M Clark born 1894 in Essex. Nothing further on her.

Alexander Clark born 1897 in Essex. Nothing further on him.

Dora May Clark born 1899 in Essex. Nothing further on her.

Constance Mabel Clark born 1902 in Essex. In 1911 Census she is living in Essex.

I can find no further information on these people so am looking please for another pair of eyes or more to assist.

As ever, any help would be much appreciated.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 2 Feb 2013 19:23

Hiya, thank you for that, I've tried to navigate that site but with not much luck, there must be a knack to it or I am being really thick. I've looked to see if Arthur Charles married anyone before he went abroad but cannot find a marriage. I've also tried to navigate the same site for Arthur's marriage to Annie but with no success, would you please be so kind as to have a look for me. Is it to be assumed that this is the same Clark family has the surname has an (e) on the end of it? I am by no means anywhere near an expert in research hence my asking for help.

There was also an Annie born, I presume the daughter of Arthur and Annie. Annie was born in Agra in 1879, she is with the family in the 1901 Census. Is it possible also please to look for this birth? Oh and is there also a marriage for Annie and Arthur please?

Hope you all don't mind. I will keep having a try at the family search site but as yet am not having much luck.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 Feb 2013 19:07



??

just days after birth of Arthur John Clarke


Annie Clarke

India Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948
birth 1851
death 26 Dec 1880
burial 27 Dec 1880 Dagshai, Bengal, India
spouse Clarke
name Annie Clarke
gender Female
burial date 27 Dec 1880
burial place Dagshai, Bengal, India
death date 26 Dec 1880age29
birth date1851
marital status Married
spouse's name Clarke
indexing project B39241-3
system origin India-EASy
source film number510864

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 2 Feb 2013 15:04

Hi again safc, am now wondering if this is the same family as the Clark has an e on the end. Although it is strange that I have two children born before Arthur married Catherine in 1881 but it does tell us Arthur was widowed. If it is the same family then Arthur John may well be another child of his first marriage. Also Arthur Snr's father was named John.

Kind regards

Kathryn

safc

safc Report 2 Feb 2013 14:58

name: Arthur John Clarke
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 Dec 1880
baptism/christening place: Dagshai, Bengal, India
birth date: 20 Dec 1880
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Arthur Clarke
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Annie
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C75028-4
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 510864
reference number: v 174 p 21


info found here

https://familysearch.org/#form=historical_records


you can try here as well

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/

http://www.new.fibis.org/

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 2 Feb 2013 14:58

Hello safc, thank you for your prompt response and the information provided. I hope you do not think I am being cheeky but are you able to find a birth for Annie please. She is shown in the 1901 Census but I estimate her birth year as 1879. I would assume she is from Arthur's first marriage and of course we now know his first wife's name was Annie. Also, not sure where you manage to find this information from but would it be possibel to see if there is also any more info on his marrige to Annie please

Kind regards

Kathryn

safc

safc Report 2 Feb 2013 14:51

name: Emma Clarke
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Nov 1878
baptism/christening place: Agra, Bengal, India
birth date: 05 Nov 1878
birthplace: Agra, Bengal, India
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Arthur Clarke
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Annie
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C75027-5
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 510858
reference number: v 166 p 3

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 2 Feb 2013 14:48

Hi all, having managed to digest all the information provided I now note that Arthur Charles Clark was a widow when he married Catherine Rogers in 1881. Would anyone please possibly be able to find who he married prior to Catherine. Not 100% sure but it is possible he married in India. I have two children who were born before Arthur married Catherine, both born in India. Emma Clark born 5 November 1878 and an Annie Clark born 1879 both in India. I think Annie was born in Agra but not sure about Emma but definitely in India.

As ever, any help much appreciated.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Feb 2013 21:45

I'm not sure about the Mills children either but it definitely shows them on the 1911 census as being adopted and obviously looks like Charles and Jessie adopted them. This is a strange one. I have Charles and Jessie as having a couple of children, Charles Frederick Morton Clark (Morton was Jessie's maiden name) born 1911 and died 1993 and also a Kathleen L Clark born 1913 but I have nothing else on her though.

Sorry all but am getting really tired now, been a long and stressful week at work so am off to bed. I do appreciate all your help though. Will start again tomorrow but if anyone adds anything to this thread during the rest of the evening or during the night (I know how keen some of you are with your research), I will reply tomorrow morning.

Once again thanks to all.

Kind regards

Kathryn

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Feb 2013 21:36

1901 not sure of parents relationship if any to your family but this looks like Arthur Mills in 1901?

Name:
Arthur Mills

Age:
6 Months
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1900
Relation:
Son
Father's Name:
William Mills
Mother's Name:
Mary Mills
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Rochester, Kent, England
Civil parish:
Rochester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish:
Rochester St Margaret
County/Island:
Kent
Country:
England

Household Members:


William Mills 30
Mary Mills 25
William Mills 2
Arthur Mills 6 Months

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Feb 2013 21:36

Hiya Jan, this may well be him as they were living in Kent when they got married and Jessie then went on to marry my grand uncle also in Kent. Well found, thankyou. It fits in between the dates he and Jessie married and Jessie marrying my grand uncle in 1922 when she is given as a widow.

Kind regards

Kathryn

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Feb 2013 21:26

have you thought about this death?

Name:
Charles E Clark

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1883

Date of Registration:
Apr-May-Jun 1914

Age at Death:
31
Registration district:
Tonbridge
Inferred County:
Kent
Volume:
2a
Page:
912

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Feb 2013 21:19

possible record info
from http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk if you think it could be him then you can download records for £3.36

.
Reference:ADM 159/54/322
Description:
Name Clark, Charles Ernest
Register Number: 11357
Division: Royal Marine Light Infantry: Chatham Division
When Enlisted/Date of Enlistment: 12 October 1899

Date: 12 June 1881
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Feb 2013 21:19

Hiya, all I can say once again is thank you so much to all. I know I keep repeating myself but this is all just wonderful information.

Thank you Choccy also, look forward to receiving the same.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2013 21:13



Kathryn, I will forward the Army records of Arthur Clark to you by PM


safc

safc Report 1 Feb 2013 21:11

groom's name: Arthur Clark
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Catherine Rogers
bride's birth date: 1865
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 16
marriage date: 14 Jun 1881
marriage place: Hasauli, Bengal, India
groom's father's name: John Clark
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Charles Rogers
bride's mother's name:
groom's race: White
groom's marital status: Widowed
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race: White
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M75028-5
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 510865
reference number: Film 510-865

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Feb 2013 21:11

Thank you Choccy for this new information, it's amazing what can be found when one knows where to look.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2013 21:06



British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

Print Close First name(s): Arthur
Last name: CLARK
Calculated year of birth: 1846
Parish of birth: Springfield
Town of birth: Chelmsford
County of birth: Essex
Age at attestation: 18 years 2 months
Attestation date: 28 October 1864
Attestation corps: 60th Rifles
Attestation soldier number: 1606
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 2499 / 53



wife Catherine Roger - married on 1st June 1881 at Sanawan(?), East Indies

Children - Emma (5th Nov 1878), Charles E (28th June 1882), George Alfred (17th July 1885), Sidney Walter (15th Nov 1887), Frederick (30th December 1889 - died 1st June 1890)


Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Feb 2013 21:02

Hi everyone, I thank you all so much, I never ever expected to get this much information being that the family were in India. This is really wonderful, I'm so grateful. If anyone finds anything else then please kindly contact me. I will be back and forth to my computer until around 10pm and then again tomorrow morning.

Once again, to all, thank you so much for your time, help and information provided.

Kind regards

Kathryn

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Feb 2013 20:49

1911 mother was born in India