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Theophila Kirkpatrick, father Thomas Kirkpatrick,

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Megan

Megan Report 3 Feb 2013 02:18

Theophila may have been born in Australia. DOB 17/02/1853

Her parents are Thomas Kirkpatrick and Helen Dunnage.

I would be happy to have any information on any of these people

thanks

jax

jax Report 3 Feb 2013 03:31

??

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Thomas Kirkpatrick
Name: Thomas Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1895
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Robert
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Place: Grenfell, New South Wales
Registration number: 8612

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
about Thomas Kirkpatrick
Name: Thomas Kirkpatrick
Birth Year: abt 1811
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Arrival Date: 28 May 1839
Vessel Name: Formosa
Origin Location: Tinneran, Dumfrieshire

Son of Robert ...Farmer and mother Janet

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
about Ellen Kirkpatrick
Name: Ellen Kirkpatrick
Birth Year: abt 1817
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Arrival Date: 28 May 1839
Vessel Name: Formosa
Children's Names: John

It looks like it says daughter of John Dunnage...Gardener and janet... needlewoman

jax

jax Report 3 Feb 2013 03:49

??
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Ellen Kirkpatrick
Name: Ellen Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1884
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John D
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Place: Carcoar, New South Wales
Registration number: 7570


Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
about Ellen Dunnage Kirkpatrick
Name: Ellen Dunnage Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 20 May 1884
Cemetery: Lyndhurst Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Lyndhurst, New South Wales
Additional Information Available: More Information Is Available From Cowra Family History Group Inc. Po Box 495 Cowra Nsw 2794


Megan

Megan Report 3 Feb 2013 04:00

thank you, this is very helpful

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Feb 2013 10:21

Agnes Kirkpatrick
Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
christening 16 Sep 1845 Cook County, New South Wales, Australia
residence New South Wales, Australia
parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Helen Dunnage

Mary Kirkpatrick
Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
christening 23 Sep 1850 St Andrews Scots Church, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
residence New South Wales, Australia
parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Helen Dunnage

Thomas Kirkpatrick
Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
christening 12 Jan 1851 Goulburn, Argyle, New South Wales, Australia
residence New South Wales, Australia
parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Helen Kirkpatrick

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Feb 2013 10:22

Robert Kirkpatrick
Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
christening 07 Feb 1841 St. Andrews Scots Church, Sydney, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
residence New South Wales, Australia
parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Ellen

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Feb 2013 10:23

Janeet Kirkpatrick
Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
christening 12 Mar 1848 Cook, New South Wales, Australia
residence New South Wales, Australia
parentThomas Kirkpatrick, Ellen Dunnage

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2013 11:23

Hello Megan, what is your connection to Theophila? Do you know anything of her later life?

Could this be her marriage?

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950

Name: Theophila Jane Kirkpatrick
Spouse Name: Wm Bedddte
Marriage Date: 1881
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Carcoar, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1881
Registration number: 3449

and death?

Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007

Name: Theophilia Jane Beddie
Death Age: 88
Birth Date: abt 1853
Death Date: 26 Jul 1941
Cemetery: Carcoar
Cemetery Location: Cowra, New South Wales

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2013 11:32

If it's the correct one then she's mentioned in this article from the Sydney Morning Herald Saturday 11 May 1912 :

A WILL CASE.

Mr. E. M. Betts, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, Blayney, by their agents, Messrs. Weaver and Allworth, appeared for the plaintiffs; Mr. Coffey, instructed by Messrs. Reid and Reid, for the defendants, R. H. Kirkpatrick and J. Stephen; Mr. Hinton, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for Mrs. Beddie; Mr. Bonney, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for A. D. Kirkpatrick; Mr. Wickham, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for J. L. Whitmill; and Mr. Murray-Prior, instructed by Messrs. Pyle and Westgarth, for Miss Twaddell.

The plaintiffs were Campbell Ferguson and James Delahunt Matthews; and the defendants Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick, station manager, Buckungong; James Stephen, bank manager, Albury; Theophila Jane Beddie, Shaw; Archibald David Kirkpatrick, tramway employee, Newtown; John Loudon Whitmill, grocer, Parkes; and Jane Twaddell, Forbes.

This was an originating summons in which interpretation of the will of the late Adam Kirkpatrick, storekeeper, Blayney, was sought, the plaintiffs claiming to be the surviving executors, and the defendants claiming to represent the beneficiaries under the will.

It was set out that the testator died on June 18, 1908, and by his will of February 4, 1896, and a codicil of January 7, 1903, bequeathed his property, after payment of debts, to his brothers and sisters in equal shares. If any of them predeceased him their children were to inherit their parent's share. He directed that the children of two of his deceased brothers should inherit as heirs of their fathers. It was stated that the claims of a large number of relatives were involved. The Court was asked how the estate was to be apportioned. The amount involved was estimated at about £350.

His Honor reserved his decision.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2013 11:39

Not too sure that the above two posts are about the same lady that Megan is researching but will leave in case they are connected.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Feb 2013 12:13

The 1839 emigration data says Thomas's parents were Robert Kirkpatrick and Janet Hunter.



name: Thomas Kirkpatrick
gender: Male
baptism/christening date
baptism/christening place:
, TYNRON, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
birth date: 01 Apr 1810
birthplace: , Tynron, Dumfries, Scotland
death date
name note:
race:
father's name:Robert Kirkpatrick
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name:Janet Hunter
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number:C11852-2
system origin:

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2013 12:16

That's interesting, Anne - perhaps the article I found is right as one of the brothers is Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick.

We really need some feedback from Megan.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Feb 2013 12:30

Other children born to Robert Kilpatrick and Janet Hunter:

Helen Welsh Kirkpatrick b 26 Mar 1808 Tynron, Dumfriesshire
James Kilpatrick b 7 May 1812 Tynron, Dumfriesshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2013 12:41

Following on from the above article about the estate, there was a decision reached a few days later. Summary:

"His Honor, in giving judgment, held, after reviewing the facts and authorities bearing on the questions at issue, that the estate must be divided into four parts - one for the executors of J. H. Kirkpatrick, one for the children or issue of Thomas Kirkpatrick, one for the children or issue of Robert Kirkpatrick, and one for the children or issue of Mrs. Twaddell; costs to come out of the estate."

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Feb 2013 13:54

I think I have worked this out...
The deceased person and his disputed will refers to Adam Brown Kirkpatrick who died 22 Jun 1908 age 87yrs. He was the 5th son of Robert Kilpatrick of Closeburn, Dumfries.
He appears to be unmarried.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14939252?searchTerm=kirkpatrick&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-decade=190|||l-year=1908|||l-category=Family+Notices

Unless my maths is out (again) the deceased was the brother of Thomas who emigrated in 1839.
It looks like his nieces and nephews are seeking their right as beneficiaries, but I am not sure if all of them are Thomas's kids?
Were there other children of Robert Kirkpatrick and Janet Hunter in Australia?

Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick seems to be the son of John Hunter Kilpatrick.... I wonder if John Hunter Kilpatrick was the son of Thomas ( b 1810) , or am I right to suspect that he is another brother born in Dumfries?
Will check!
Edit:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about John H Kirkpatrick
Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1911
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Robert***
Mother's Name: Janet**
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Place: Mosman, New South Wales
Registration number: 15471



Anne

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Feb 2013 14:08

John Hunter Kirkpatrick death notice
He was Thomas's brother!
He was 82yrs of age, youngest son of Robert Kilpatrick of Closeburn, Dumfries.
his house was called TYRNON!
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15295310?searchTerm= john hunter kirkpatrick&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-decade=191

The people disputing their uncle's will are children of two brothers of the deceased,Adam Brown Kilpatrick who were: Thomas and John Hunter Kilpatrick.
This places 3 Kilpatrick brothers in OZ

John Hunter Kirkpatrick:

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about John H Kirkpatrick
Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Spouse Name: Margaret Jones
Marriage Date: 1855
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sofala, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1855
Volume Number: V

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick
Name: Roger Hunter Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1872
Father's Name: John Hunter Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 5355
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
about Roger H Kirkpatrick
Name: Roger H Kirkpatrick
Spouse Name: Eliza J Guest
Marriage Date: 1913
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Mosman, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1913
Registration number: 2175

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Roger H Kirkpatrick
Name: Roger H Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1930
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1930
Registration Place: Peak Hill, New South Wales
Registration number: 7532


1930 death announcement for Roger confirms his father was from Dumfries:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16664238?searchTerm= john hunter kirkpatrick&searchLimits=l-title=35|||l-category=Family+Notices


GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Feb 2013 15:43

Other children of John Hunter Kirkpatrick and Margaret Jones:

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about John Kirkpatrick
Name: John Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1856
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 2733

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Janet S Kirkpatrick
Name: Janet S Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1858
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1858
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 4051

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Agnes M Kirkpatrick
Name: Agnes M Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1860
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1860
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 4201

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Thomas J Kirkpatrick ***** See death below
Name: Thomas J Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1862
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 4087

Name: Margaret Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1864
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 4431

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Robert Kirkpatrick
Name: Robert Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1865
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1865
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 4758

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Mary E Kirkpatrick
Name: Mary E Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1867
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 5104

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Agnes A Kirkpatrick
Name: Agnes A Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1869
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1869
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 5447

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about James E Kirkpatrick
Name: James E Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1874
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 6039

Name: Adam L H Kirkpatrick
Birth Date: 1876
Father's Name: John H Kirkpatrick
Mother's Name: Margaret
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 6621


Deaths
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Thomas J Kirkpatrick
Name: Thomas J Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1896
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Place: Nyngan, New South Wales
Registration number: 14641

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1796-1942
about Thomas James Kirkpatrick
Name: Thomas James Kirkpatrick
Inquest Date: 29 Sep 1896
Inquest Location: Nyngan
Death Place: East Nyngan Run Nyngan
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Birth Place: Albury, New South Wales
Injuries received after falling from a wagon.

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about James E Kirkpatrick
Name: James E Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1879
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration number: 3846

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Adam L H Kirkpatrick
Name: Adam L H Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1923
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John J
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1923
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration number: 163

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Robert Kirkpatrick
Name: Robert Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1933
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1933
Registration Place: Drummoyne, New South Wales
Registration number: 5358

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about John Kirkpatrick
Name: John Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1923
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John H
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1923
Registration Place: Woollahra, New South Wales
Registration number: 7437

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Janet Sarah Kirkpatrick
Name: Janet Sarah Kirkpatrick
Death Date: 1945
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John Hunter
Mother's Name: Margaret
Registration Year: 1945
Registration Place: Waverley, New South Wales
Registration number: 6016

Megan

Megan Report 4 Feb 2013 04:28

Thank you for all your digging and finding so much!!!

Theophila Kirkpatrick was my mother's paternal grandmother and I can not find a record of her birth but we have it from family records.

Theophila's sister, Elizabeth, married in 1884 to John Garrock Beddie b1861-d1944 (brother of Theophila's husband, William Beddie).

I know that Thomas Kirkpatrick arrived with assisted passage to Australia on the 'Formosa' on 28 May 1838 with wife, Helen/Ellen Dunnage (and a child - John??)

I have plenty of names and dates to add to the tree now - thank you