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Willow 1850 -1883

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Penny

Penny Report 5 Feb 2013 08:52

Clara, not Clare

Name: Fanny Clara Lucas
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1879
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 103 (click to see others on page)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Feb 2013 08:27

Might Fanny's death cert provide more info?

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name: Fanny Willow
Death Date: 1936
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Registration Year: 1936
Registration Place: North Sydney, New South Wales
Registration number: 16460

Australian certs apparently have more info than ours

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Feb 2013 08:21

Pamela, do you have any clues as to where the marriage of Thomas John and Fanny Clare might have taken place?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2013 08:08

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from ancestry ...........


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Miss F Willow
Gender: Female
Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1854
Departure Date: 27 Oct 1923
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Adelaide, Australia
Ship Name: Suevic
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Suevic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 113456
Master: A E Jackson

from image:-

Last Address in UK:- 24
Frances St, W.C. 1 (ie, London)

Place of Permanent Residence:- Australia

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Miss Fanny Willow
Gender: Female
Age: 72
Birth Date: abt 1853
Departure Date: 18 Dec 1925
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Maloja
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Maloja' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 145437
Master: S C Warner


from image:-

Last Address in England:- Lelant, Cornwall
Travelling 2nd Class, going to Sydney
Permanent Residence:- Australia




UK Incoming Passenger Lists,

Name: Fanny Willow
Birth Date: abt 1855
Age: 68
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 14 Apr 1923
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Plymouth]
Ship Name: Moreton Bay
Search Ship Database: View the 'Moreton Bay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Commonwealth Government Line
Official Number: 130169

from image:-

Proposed Address in UK:- Commonwealth Bank of Australia
Permanent Residence:- Australia




Fanny seems to be the only one who travelled!!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2013 07:31

a tree on ancestry has the following information .................. but NO documentation to support the dates


Is this in fact YOUR tree????


John Willow 1820 –

Fanny Willow 1851 – 1936
Louise Eleanor Willow 1854 – 1933
Evelyn Willow 1857 – 1891
Emily Willow 1860 – 1951
James Willow 1863 –

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2013 07:17

Thomas John in 1861

1861 Census

Name: Thomas John Lucas
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: England

Civil parish: East Bergholt
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Samford
Sub-registration district: Capel St Mary

Thomas White Goodrich 30 Late Captain 4th Light Dragoons
Ermingarole Goodrich 38
Thomas John Lucas 29 Captain H.M.C.M. Riflemen
Eliza Wright 40 Housekeeper
Jane Edwards 21Cook
Sarah Moss 22 Housemaid
Ellen Barrell 23 Kitchenmaid

Address:- Highlands, White Horse Road

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2013 07:12

Do you have Thomas John's will??


from ancestry


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Thomas John Lucas
Probate Date: 29 Nov 1879
Death Date: 4 Nov 1879
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry


from image:-

29 November 1879. Administration (with the Will) of the Personal Estate of Thomas John Lucas, late of 45 Blenheim Crescent, Notting Hill in the County of Middlesex, heretofore a Captain in Her Majesty's Cape Mounted Rifles, who died 4 November 1879 at 45 Blenheim Crescent, was granted at the Principal Registry to Briscoe Hooper of Torquay in the County of Devon, a Member of the Firm of Messrs. Hooper and Wallon, Solicitors, the Universal Legatee in Trust.

Personal Estate under £2000


You would have to buy the will to find out how the estate was distributed.




sylvia

Pamela

Pamela Report 5 Feb 2013 05:30

I am unable to find any definitive leads to this family. They do not seem to appear on any census records as a family. Any assistance would be very appreciated. I am wondering if they had lived somewhere other than England.
Parents: John and Fanny Clare ( maiden name unknown) Willow.
Children: Fanny born c.1854; Louise born c.1855; Evelyn born c.1858 and Emily born 10.3.1860 (death certificate says born in Brighton, England)
Family story says John was considerably older than Fanny Clare and died "when children were quite young"???
Fanny Clare married again to Thomas John Lucas, born 1826 in Devon.
Thomas Lucas, a captain in Cape Mounted Rifles was medically discharged from them possibly around 1861-2. He died at his home in Notting Hill, Kensington in late October 1879.
It appears that Fanny Clare died in early 1879. Her age was given as 42 (birth year 1836?) meaning she was about 18 at the time of Fanny's birth.
The 3 older daughters, all unmarried, emigrated to South Australia in 1879 (there are no official records for unassisted immigrants, if you are lucky they may appear on a passenger list published in the daily papers of the day - we are not so lucky).
Evelyn married Henry George Parker in Adelaide on 28 August 1880.
Emily joined her sisters in Adelaide in 1883. She arrived aboard the John Elder as a first class saloon passenger.
The family story also says that the girls all attended finishing school on the continent as their mother wished to travel with her new husband. Thomas Lucas is also said to have unsuccessfully tried farming in New Zealand for a short while.
A cousin of my mother claimed there was also a brother, James, who "ran away from Eton, put his age up, joined the armed forces and was never heard from again". I am not sure about the reliability of this piece of information.
I thank you in advance for any you may be able give on this subject :-)