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marriage certificates pre 1837

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Susan

Susan Report 5 Feb 2013 23:09

Does anyone know if its possible to get a marriage certificate pre 1837? I need to confirm they are the right relatives but I need to see the marriage certificate . The marriage was in 1834 and in Kensington so are there any other archives that hold the info?
Sue

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Feb 2013 23:12

No marriage certs as such (they only started with civil registration in 1837) but some London records are available on line.

If you care to post the names you are looking for, then people on the boards can do a lookup for you.

Andy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Feb 2013 23:19

Some of the London ones on Ancestry for 1836 are the same as the ones issued in 1837 but very hit and miss and certainly not for 1834

Susan

Susan Report 5 Feb 2013 23:24

Thanks
I am trying to confirm that William Hammond who married Sarah Robinson who married on 30th Oct 1834 in Kensington are the parents of Henry Hammond born 1843. Sarah died in 1843 and I am presuming in child birth. I cannot find any thing on Henry in the 1851 /1861 census's and so a bit stuck. This is a bit aof educated guess work but as yet cant prove anything

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Feb 2013 23:33

Why not buy Henry's birth cert and see if his mother was Sarah nee Robinson



Is this him ?

Births Mar 1843
Hammond Henry Hunter John - Kensington 3 279

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Feb 2013 23:35

Do you mean this Henry ?

Name: Henry Hammond
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Sep 1842
Father's Name: William Hammond
Mother's Name: Sarah Hammond
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Susan

Susan Report 5 Feb 2013 23:39

Yes I may well do that. I saw Henry Hunter John but I am not convinced its the correct Henry. I am not aware of the Hunter John bit in the history of the family. However there are no other Henry Hammonds registered in Kensington.

As you say getting the certificate will either eliminate or add some interesting info

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 5 Feb 2013 23:40

And this marriage - no register image unfortunately.

Day: 30
Month: Oct
Year: 1834
Groom Forenames: William
Groom Surname: HAMMOND
Bride Forenames: Sarah
Bride Surname: ROBINSON
Place: Kensington
County: Middlesex
Country: England
Record source: West Middlesex Marriage Index

patchem

patchem Report 5 Feb 2013 23:43

This looks like that birth;
Henry Hunter John Hammond
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Mar 1843
Father's Name: Henry Hammond
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Hammond
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Feb 2013 23:43

??

Name: Sarah Hammond
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: 1843
Burial Date: 28 Jan 1843
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript


Abode: Brompton Row

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Feb 2013 23:45

I think this will be the 1843 birth Mike has posted

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Henry Hunter John Hammond
Name: Henry Hunter John Hammond
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Mar 1843
Father's Name: Henry Hammond
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Hammond
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers



and this might be 1851

1851 England Census
about H Hammond
Name: H Hammond
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: H Hammond
Mother's Name: M A Hammond
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Piece: 1468
Folio: 702
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
H Hammond 39
M A Hammond 36
H Hammond 8
G Hammond 5
E Hammond 3
E Hammond 9 Mo


Andy

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Feb 2013 23:45

So he can't have been born 1843 if baptised in 1842.

So maybe ....

Births Sep 1842
Hammond Henry - Shoreditch 2 409

Susan

Susan Report 5 Feb 2013 23:45

Hi GlitterBaby

I will check it out. I have always had the info as 1843 and Kensington but its definitely possible it was registered as 1842. Not convinced though.

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Feb 2013 23:50

Is Henry (1843) your direct line?

If so, his marriage cert will include details of his father.

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births.................

A marriage record will not confirm a person's parents............it can't

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Feb 2013 23:51

The woman who died in 1843 should appear on 1841 census, and her death cert should say whose wife she was

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Feb 2013 23:51

According to a tree, the mother for that christening was Sarah Smith

henry Hammond
Birth 17 aug 1842 in Shoreditch St Leonard, Middlesex, England
Death Jul 1888 in Greater London, London, Middlesex, United Kingdom

baptised : 24 Sep 1842

parents
William Hammond 1801 –
sarah smith 1804 – 1851

married Jane Field in 1861

Susan

Susan Report 5 Feb 2013 23:51

Thank you all so far. There is something very strange as there is just nothing concrete to work from.. I have all the info for my Henry who married Harriett Seal and then all the way down to my grandmother but absolutely and frustratingly nothing before his bith. No parents and no siblings. Only presumptions

Andrew

Andrew Report 5 Feb 2013 23:54

This maybe William and Sarah from 1841

1841 England Census
about William Hammond
Name: William Hammond
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Fulham
Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 689
Book: 11
Folio: 16
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
William Hammond 33
Sarah Hammond 28
Elisabeth Hammond 7
William Hammond 2
Williams Hammond 65
Jno Heston 45
Ann Green 17


Andy

Reggie

Reggie Report 5 Feb 2013 23:54

What are the details about his father on the marriage cert?

Susan

Susan Report 5 Feb 2013 23:55

Reggie
Yes he is . He is my gt gt grandfather. I will get a copy of the marriage cert.

On the 1841 it shows a sarah and William living together and at that stage 2 children - Ellesabeth and William aged 7 and 2