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KATHLEEN
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6 Feb 2013 14:44 |
Has anyone got any information regarding Philip Hyams, my Great, Great Grandfather born around 1799. He lived in the East End of London. His Children were Hyman, David, Phillip and Rebecca, Soloman and Adelaide.
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2013 14:52 |
Do you have him in any census?
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AnnCardiff
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6 Feb 2013 14:58 |
name: Hymman Hyams event: Census event date: 1871 gender: Male age: 22 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Spitalfields, Middlesex record type: Household registration district: Whitechapel sub-district: Whitechapel, North event parish: Whitechapel county: London, Middlesex Household Gender Age Birthplace self Philip Hyams M 60 London, Middlesex wife Maryann Hyams F 56 Spitalfields, Middlesex son Hymman Hyams M 22 Spitalfields, Middlesex son David Hyams M 18 Bethal Green, Middlesex son Philip Hyams M 15 Spitalfields, Middlesex daughter Rebecca Hyams F 15 Spitalfields, Middlesex son Solomon Hyams M 12 Whitechapel, Middlesex
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2013 15:00 |
Looks as though he was born later than you thought:-
1871 census transcription details for: North Street, Whitechapel
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 516 Folio: 13 Page: 19 Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: Whitechapel, North Parish: Whitechapel Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: North Street, Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HYAMS, Philip Head M 60 1811 London<<<<<<<<<<<<<< HYAMS, Maryann Wife F 56 1815 Middlesex HYAMS, Hymman Son M 22 1849 Middlesex HYAMS, David Son M 18 1853 Middlesex HYAMS, Philip Son M 15 1856 Middlesex HYAMS, Rebecca Daughter F 15 1856 Middlesex HYAMS, Solomon Son M 12 1859 Middlesex
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2013 15:03 |
What information do you have in mind?
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2013 15:05 |
Possibly the same family in 1861:-
1861 census transcription details for: 27, Castle Alley, Whitechapel
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 270 Folio: 94 Page: 24 Reg. District: Whitechapel Sub District: 4 Whitechapel North Parish: Whitechapel Enum. District: 14 Ecclesiastical District: St Judes City/Municipal Borough: Address: 27, Castle Alley, Whitechapel County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HYAMS, Philip Head Married M 64 1797 Shoemaker Aldgate, Middlesex HYAMS, My Ann Wife Married F 44 1817 Shoebinder Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, Louis Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Shoemaker Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, Hyam Son M 13 1848 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, Adelaide Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, Dee P Son M 8 1853 Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, Rebecca Daughter F 6 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, Philip Son M 6 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex HYAMS, John Son M 2 1859 Whitechapel, Middlesex
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Maddie
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6 Feb 2013 15:09 |
1861 ? HYAMS, Philip Head Married M 64 1797 Shoemaker Aldgate, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, My Ann Wife Married F 44 1817 Shoebinder Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, Louis Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Shoemaker Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, Hyam Son M 13 1848 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, Adelaide Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, Dee P Son M 8 1853 Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, Rebecca Daughter F 6 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, Philip Son M 6 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex VIEW HYAMS, John Son M 2 1859 Whitechapel, Middlesex VIEW
Piece: 270
Folio: 94
Page: 24
Registration District: Whitechapel
Civil Parish: Whitechapel
Municipal Borough:
Address: 27, Castle Alley, Whitechapel
County: London
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2013 15:13 |
Is THIS the right man?
1861 England Census about Philip Hyams Name: Philip Hyams Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: My Ann Hyams Gender: Male Where born: Aldgate, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Whitechapel Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Piece: 270 Folio: 94 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Philip Hyams 64...........Shoemaker My Ann Hyams 44 Lewis Hyams 18 Hyam Hyams 13 Abelardo Hyams 10 David Hyams 8 Rebecca Hyams 6 Philip Hyams 6 Ida Hyams 2
Image of his age is clearly 64, but could, of course, be incorrect --------------------------------------------------
1851 England Census Name: Phillip Himes Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Himes Gender: M (Male) Where born: Udale, London, England [Aldgate] Civil parish: Christchurch Spitalfields County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Artillery ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 45 Piece: 1543 Folio: 128 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Himes 52 Mary Himes 34 Henry Himes 13 Maria Himes 10 Sarah Himes 7 Lizzy Himes 5 Himan Himes 3 Aby Himes 10 Mo
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2013 15:15 |
1841 England Census Name: Phillip Himes Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Christ Church Spitalfields Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 710 Book: 5 Folio: 11 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Himes 40 Ann Himes 30 Henry Himes 2
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KathleenBell
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6 Feb 2013 15:21 |
This Philip Hyams/Himes is a shoemaker throughout the census years.
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6 Feb 2013 15:45 |
spouse Mary Ann/Kate Hepworth
children
Henry Cornelious Hepworth Hyams/Himes 1838 – Maria Hyams/Himes 1841 – Lewis Cornelious Hepworth Hyams 1843 – 1882 Sarah Hyams 1844 – Lizzy/Kitty Hyams 1846 – Hymman Hyams 1848 – Adelaide Hyams/Himes 1850 – Abelardo Hyams 1851 – David Hyams 1853 - Philip Hyams 1854 – Rebecca Hyams 1854 – SolomonHyams 1859 - Ida Hyams 1859 –
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Maddie
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6 Feb 2013 17:02 |
trees on ancestry have him born between 1797 and 1811 but no one has his parents
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