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Can't find Hide nor Hair of Annie

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greyghost Report 7 Feb 2013 18:45

Can anyone find Annie Elizabeth Taylor in 1881 and 1891 please (and her parents).

Below (all I think I know) to show the consistency of her age, place of birth etc. and hopefully to show that pre and post the missing years work. But unable to find Annie Elizabeth Taylor and/or her family in 1881/1891. (There is a death Kingston RD 1872 of a 25 year old Hannah?)

Also, but secondary - can’t find birth Reg of Queenie Carter - Valentine Victoria on 1911 census. Her brother William Charles’ baptism in 1897 shows father was a Traveller at that time - and he was working in Yorkshire when VV was born apparently. Brothers registered Mar 1897 and Jun 1899, so earlier rather than later in 1898 EDIT - as she was born Valentine's Day.

1911 - Annie Elizabeth Carter age 41 b Hampton. Family living Willesden, Middx. William Joseph a Potman/Lic. Vict

1901 census transcription details for: 28, Thorpe Road, Kingston Upon Thames

National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 665 Folio: 61 Page: 3
Address: 28, Thorpe Road, Kingston Upon Thames County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CARTER, Eliza Occupier Widow F 58 1843 Vauxhall, London
CARTER, William J Son Married M 36 1865 Labourer Stepney, London
CARTER, Annie Daughter-In-Law Married F 31 1870 Hampton, Middx <<<<<<
CARTER, William Grand Son M 4 1897 Teddington, Middx
CARTER, Queenie Grand Daughter F 3 1898 Scarboro, Yorks
CARTER, Arthur Grand Son M 2 1899 Kingston, Surrey
CARTER, Violet M Grand Daughter F 1 1900 Kingston, Surrey
WHITE, Elsie L Grand Daughter F 4 1897 Kensington, London

William Charles Carter (above as William) b Surrey, Kingston Mar Qtr 1897 2A 410 (covers Teddington)
Bap. 16.7.1897 St Peter and St Paul, Teddington. . Father a Traveller s/o William Joseph and Annie Elizabeth Carter

Marriage - William Joseph Carter to Annie Elizabeth Taylor Dec Qtr 1896 Kingston, Surrey 2A 624 <<<<<<<<<<<
From Ancestry - but a well researched tree by the looks of it (30/11/1896) St Luke’s Church, Kingston on Thames
Son of William John Carter. Daughter of Charles Taylor

1871 census transcription details for: London Road High Street West End Cottage, Hampton

National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 865 Folio: 61 Page: 16
Address: London Road High Street West End Cottage, Hampton County: Surrey

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
TAYLOR, Charles Head M 20 1851 Ag Lab Surrey, Richmond
TAYLOR, Hannah Wife F 24( 1847 Warwickshire, Ilington
TAYLOR, Annie Eth Daughter F 0 (2 M) 1871 Middlesex, Hampton <<<<<<

9 Apr 1871 - Annie Elizabeth baptised Hampton Hill, d/o Charles and Hannah. Labourer of New Hampton <<<<<<<<<<

24. Aug 1968 - Marriage - Charles Taylor age 21 (older here than the 1871 census reflects!) to Hannah Powers age 22 Hampton Hill, Richmond on Thames s/o Henry - a Labourer and d/o John - a Cooper. From Ancestry

1861 - Charles age 10 b Richmond with parents Henry and Elizabeth at New Hampton, Surrey. Henry is an Ag Lab
1851 - Charles age 9 months b Richmond with parents at Hampton

1861 - Hannah aged 15 b Ilmington, Warks with Widowed father John at Ilmington, Warks
1851 - Hannah age 5 b Ilmington, Warks with parents John and Ann. John is a Cooper


AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2013 18:57

name: Valentine Victoria Carter
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 13
birthplace: Scarborough, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Willesden
sub-district: Willesden
parish: Willesden
county: Middlesex


greyghost Report 7 Feb 2013 19:07

Thanks Ann - know she was born Scarborough as shown on census, but can't find the GRO Reg. She was born on Valentine's Day, just remembered!


brummiejan Report 7 Feb 2013 19:08

Have you got an address for Annie on her marriage?


Moira Report 7 Feb 2013 19:17

do you think this could be Annie,

1891 England Census about Annie Taylor
Name: Annie Taylor
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Nurse Maid (Nurse)
Gender: Female
Where born: New Hampton, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Shipley
Ecclesiastical parish: Cotmanhay and Shipley
Town: Shipley
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status:

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Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2664
Folio: 83
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward M Mundy 41
Catherine L Mundy 28
Winifred Mundy 4
Sybil Mundy 3
Agnes G D Fitzgerald 50
Gerald R D Fitzgerald 58
Beatrice Hartopp 24
Nancy Bateman 25
Sacheverall Bateman 30
Evelyn H Mandy 16
Louise Taverner 33
Rachel Whitewick 28
Joy Fraser 30
Harriet Compton 52
Sarah Willcock 31
Ellen Ellis 30
Annie Hine 24
Emma Hendry 22
Louisa Barnes 22
Maggie Wilson 26
Annie Barton 21
Alice Hammond 17
Lucy Hill 21
Kate Hake 17
Emily Olley 29
Annie Taylor 20
Ellen Tomlinson 17
William Kelly 38
Joseph A Munden 27
William J Perkins 23
Frank Hosker 21
Edward Vince 20
John Sim 37
John Mee 57
John Locker 18
Edward Whitehouse 11
William Withers 55
Enoch Skidmore 36
Henry Jones 35
Arthur Harbidge 16
Thomas Conway 18
Joseph Skidmore 58
Enoch Conway 17
Joseph Jarram 44

working as nursemaid for a magistrate at Shipley hall


greyghost Report 7 Feb 2013 19:19

No Brummiejan, just the Ancestry tree giving the nov. 1896 date at Kingston which fits the GRO record


greyghost Report 7 Feb 2013 19:25

That looks like a good spot Moira - a long way from home but maybe recruited in London, looking at where the youngest Mundy daughter was born. There seem to have servants from most counties!


Moira Report 7 Feb 2013 21:26

This could be the Carter Family 1911

1911 England Census about William Joseph Carter
Name: William Joseph Carter
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stepney, London, England
Civil parish: Willesden
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Yuletide Road, Willesden
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Potman, Licensed Victua
Registration district: Willesden
Registration District Number: 129
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 58
Household schedule number: 119
Piece: 7038
Household Members:
Name Age
William Joseph Carter 46
Annie Elizabeth Carter 41
William Charles Carter 14
Valentine Victoria Carter 13
Arthur Albert Carter 12
Violet Mary Carter 11
Edward Victor Carter 3
William Miller 37


greyghost Report 7 Feb 2013 21:39

Thanks Moira, have the Carter's, just didn't copy out all 1911 census in OP. - thought I was long winded enough as it was!
Am still missing Annie Elizabeth Taylor in the 1881 and parents Charles and Hannah if alive.


Moira Report 8 Feb 2013 08:05

sorry Stuart cannot find them at all on the 1881, I wonder if there is a miss spelling
of the surname.


greyghost Report 8 Feb 2013 11:37

Thanks for your help Moira. Have tried most of the spellings I can think of. Did find a death for a 25 year old Hannah Taylor in 1872 Kingston, so Annie may have been farmed out somewhere and Charles followed the Ag Lab route and could be anywhere. Will possibly never know!