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1861 census look up please ( NEED 1841 NOW PLEASE)

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Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 9 Feb 2013 05:43

Please will someone look for William Robert Swales 1856 West Hartlepool

Also John Swales 1857 West Hartlepool
Im trying to find out if they are brothers. Also need their parents names

In 1881 William is married and is a plumber and living 1 Paradise Row Whitby
John Swales is visiting and hes a tailor

Thank you

Astra

Astra Report 9 Feb 2013 06:27

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 3702
Folio: 105
Page: 19
Reg. District: Hartlepool
Sub District: 1 Hartlepool
Parish: Stranton
Enum. District: 25
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 27, Jersey Street, Stranton, West Hartlepool
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SWALES, Mary A Wife Married F 58 1803
Lealholm Bridge, Yorkshire>>>>>>>28 on original
SWALES, Wm R Son M 5 1856 Scholar
West Hartlepool, Durham
SWALES, John G Son M 1 1860
West Hartlepool, Durham
NEWTON, Michael Brother Unmarried M 30 1831 Labourer Sawmill
Lealholm Bridge, Yorkshire
MARSHALL, William Cousin Unmarried M 27 1834 Dock Labourer
..., Yorkshire
DRING, Mary Ann Servant Unmarried F 28 1833 Servant
Whitby, Yorkshire


Mary is actually 28 and this looks like her marriage to Isaac Swales

Marriages Jun 1854 (>99%)
MIDGELEY Joseph Stockton 10a 85
NEWTON Mary Ann Stockton 10a 85
Noble Jane Elizabeth Stockton 10a 85
SWALES Isaac Stockton 10a 85

There is a daughter Mary Ann born 1863


Maybe isaac was a seaman

SWALES, Isaac Vessel: OspreyF Steamer Schooner Rigd Home & Foreign Trade Port/place: West Hartlepool

SWALES, Isaac Married M 29 1832 A B Seaman
Egton, Yorkshire

Mary notes herself as widow in 1891 although Isaac is still alive in 1901 and dies in 1904 in Hartlepool

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 9 Feb 2013 07:31

Thank you Astra. Not sure if its the same John Swales. Mine is born 1856

Can you following this family in 1871 to see if John Swales age changes to 1856
He became a tailor

Found a John George Swales born 1860

Im thinking William Robert Swales 1856 ( his birth is 1855) living in Whitby in 1881 And John Swales 1856 visiting might be cousins

Can you look for John born 1856 please to confirm

Thank you

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 Feb 2013 07:37

1871?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBZ5-66W
name: Wm Robt Swales
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 15
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Stranton, Durham
record type: Household
registration district: Hartlepool
sub-district: Hartlepool
event parish: Stranton
county: Durham
Household Gender Age Birthplace
wife Ann Swales F 36 Glaisdale, Yorkshire
son Wm Robt Swales M 15 Stranton, Durham
daughter Mary Ann Swales F 8 Stranton, Durham

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 Feb 2013 07:44

Only one William Robert Swales on FreeBMD at the time so those records must be correct:

Births Jun 1855
Swales William Robert Stockton 10a 79

Rose

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 Feb 2013 08:23


maybe -

1861

RG number: RG09
Piece: 3649
Folio: 7
Page: 7
Reg. District: Whitby
Sub District: 2 Whitby
Parish: Ruswarp
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Arundel Place, Ruswarp, Whitby
County: Yorkshire (North riding)

SWALES, John Head Married M 28 1833 Mariner
Egton, Yorkshire
SWALES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 30 1831
..., Yorkshire
SWALES, Jane Ann Daughter Unmarried F 6 1855 Scholar
Hartlepool, Durham
>>>>>SWALES, John Son Unmarried M 5 1856 Scholar
Hartlepool, Durham
SWALES, Jessy Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860
Hartlepool, Durham
SWALES, George T Son Unmarried M 0 (3M) 1861
Whitby, Yorkshire
HAGGARTH, Jane Servant Unmarried F 12 1849 Nurse
..., Yorkshire



1871


RG number RG10
Piece: 4919
Folio: 14
Page: 17
Reg. District: Hartlepool
Sub District: Hartlepool
Parish: Stranton
Enum. District: 28
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Albion Street, Stranton, West Hartlepool
County: Durham


SWALES, Elizh Head F 38 1833 Yorkshire
>>>>>SWALES, John Son M 15 1856 County Durham (Tailor)
SWALES, Jessey H Daughter F 11 1860 County Durham
SWALES, George T Son M 10 1861 Yorkshire
SWALES, Mary E Daughter F 8 1863 Yorkshire
WHOIM, Wm Boarder M 29 1842 Essex
SWENSON, Peter Boarder M 23 1848 Sweden

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 Feb 2013 08:32



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: John Swales
Probate Date: 16 Mar 1869
Death Date: 22 Oct 1868
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Principal Registry

late of Whitby, Master Mariner, who died on or since 22nd October 1868 at sea.
Letters of Administration granted to Elizabeth Swales of Whitby, widow and relict of the deceased

Effects under £300




UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927

Name: John Swales
Estimated Age: 33
Birth Date: 1831
Birth Place: Egton, Yorkshire
Issue Date: 12 Jul 1864
Issue Port: Whitby
Certificate Number: 30.021



Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 9 Feb 2013 11:39

Thank you everyone
So we need to know if John and Isaac Swales were brothers making William Robert Swales and John Swales 1856 cousins

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 Feb 2013 12:45


looks a possibility they were brothers -

1841

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1256
Book/Folio: 21/4A
Page: 7
Reg. District: Whitby
Sub District: Whitby
Parish: Whitby
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Aislaby, Whitby, Aislaby
County: Yorkshire


SWALES, William M 35 1806 Yorkshire (Tailor)
SWALES, Josepy F 35 1806 Yorkshire
SWALES, Ruth F 12 1829 Yorkshire
>>>>SWALES, Isaac M 10 1831 Yorkshire
>>>>SWALES, John M 9 1832 Yorkshire
SWALES, Jane F 6 1835 Yorkshire
SWALES, William M 3 1838 Yorkshire
SWALES, George M 0 (3 months) 1841 Yorkshire
BINNINGTON, Thomas M 20 1821 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Matthew M 12 1829 Yorkshire


Choccy

Choccy Report 9 Feb 2013 13:26



"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

groom's name: William Swales
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Josey Harland
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 29 Apr 1828
marriage place: Guisborough,York,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M10537-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0919061, 0919062
reference number:



Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Swales Josey Whitby 24 349


Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 9 Feb 2013 19:52

Thank you Choccy my faithful helper