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More help please - Update 13/02/2013

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Gins

Gins Report 11 Feb 2013 13:37

Im not too sure about this couple and would appreciate your help and opinions before sending for the birth certificate of one of the children

William Bullman b 1847 Bolton, Lancs. Lived in Sheffield, Yorks

Wife is listed as Hannah b 1847 Worksop, Notts. Lived in Sheffield, Yorks

I cannot find a marriage, which according to the 1911 census should have taken place about 1873

On the 1891 census, the couple have a visitor, Emily Hodgkinson. I am wondering if this is Hannah' sister (although there is 20 years age difference) or some other kind of relative?

I then found this marriage:


Marriages Jun 1912
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BULLMAN William Hodgkinson Rotherham 9c 1228 <<<<
HODGKINSON Hannah Bullman Rotherham 9c 1228 <<<<
Smedley Agnes M Smith Rotherham 9c 1228
Smith John H Smedley Rotherham



Not a Sheffield marriage but Rotherham is very close. I am wondering if the couple married a tad late! They both die in the 1920's, Sheffield

I cant see a William Bullman on the 1911 census in Rotherham



Thanks in advance


Edit: I cant see any births for the above couple after the 1912 marriage

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Feb 2013 13:44



??

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 3459
Folio: 78
Page: 32
Reg. District: Worksop
Sub District: Worksop
Parish: Worksop
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Carlton Road, Worksop
County: Nottinghamshire

HODGKINSON, John Head M 68 1803 Nottinghamshire
HODGKINSON, Hannah Wife F 62 1809 Lincolnshire
>>>>>HODGKINSON, Hannah Daughter F 23 1848 Nottinghamshire
HODGKINSON, Joseph Son M 20 1851 Nottinghamshire
>>>>>HODGKINSON, Emily H Granddaughter F 3 1868 Nottinghamshire
STORR, John Boarder M 21 1850 Derbyshire

Andrew

Andrew Report 11 Feb 2013 13:45

There is a Hannah Hodgkinson born right time, right place. Only way to be certain is to buy the cert

1851 England Census
about Hannah Hodgkinson
Name: Hannah Hodgkinson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Hodgkinson
Mother's Name: Hannah Hodgkinson
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Worksop
Town: Worksop
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Worksop
Sub-registration district: Worksop
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Piece: 2122
Folio: 239
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Hodgkinson 48
Hannah Hodgkinson 42
Mary Hodgkinson 20
John Hodgkinson 11
Eliza Hodgkinson 9
Harriet Hodgkinson 7
George Hodgkinson 5
Hannah Hodgkinson 3
Joseph Hodgkinson 5 Mo


Andy

Margee

Margee Report 11 Feb 2013 13:45

Possible?

Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
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HODGKINSON Hannah Worksop 15 659

Gins

Gins Report 11 Feb 2013 13:52

Choccy, thats interesting, I wonder if Emily was Hannah' daughter?

Just had a look for deaths of a William Bullman after 1912 to 1960, cant see any at the moment

I will have another root around before sending for a birth certificate

Thanks Andy & Margee

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Feb 2013 13:57


possibly -


Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%)
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Bullman William 81 Sheffield 9c 489



Deaths Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Bullman Hannah 76 Sheffield 9c 691





Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Feb 2013 13:58

Maybe he was married to someone else, left his wife to live with Hannah, and then went on to marry her when he was free to do so?

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Feb 2013 14:14


haven't actually looked for the two of them on census returns, but maybe -


Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BULMAN William Pocklington 9d 132
Sapcote Mary Appolina Pocklington 9d 132



Deaths Jun 1910 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


BULMAN Mary Appollonia 67 Beverley 9d 60



EDIT - FORGET THEM - found them together in 1901!


will leave posted if only to eliminate


Gins

Gins Report 11 Feb 2013 14:17

Thanks Ive just found that couple together in the census returns, so it rules them

Gins

Gins Report 13 Feb 2013 12:42

I have this census for the above

1911 England Census

Name: Harry Simpson
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Kilbarham, Scotland
Civil parish: Ecclesall
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 51 Broomspring Lane, Broon Hall Sheffield
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Hotel Waiter
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Registration District Number: 509
Sub-registration district: Broomhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 27840
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Simpson 33
Mary A E Simpson 32
Harry Simpson 2
Cyril C B Hamitton


His marriage certificate states:

Marriage: 08/01/1906 Sheffield

Bride: Mary Ann Elizabeth Bullman (Daughter of the first posting on here)

Groom: Henry Simpson age 28, Hotel Waiter Father: Henry Simpson, Occ Butler (Domestic Servant)

Wit: Frank Ridge & Ada Bullman (Mary' sister)



I'm OK for info about Mary A E Bullman but need help please with Henry Simpson

The census states he was born in Scotland but I am 'pants' researching Scottish records and regions.

I would love to be able to send for a birth certificate but the name is so common and I cant find him with his father on the censuses?

Any help most welcome - thank you

Gins

Gins Report 13 Feb 2013 12:53

I think this is him in 1901


1901 England Census
about Henry Simpson
Name: Henry Simpson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Craigbrids, Scotland

Civil parish: Ecclesall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 4352
Folio: 103
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Ann Wade 49
Sarah P Gregg 48
Polly Wade 23
Henry Simpson 24
William Holmes 29
George A Robinson 45


Dea

Dea Report 13 Feb 2013 13:11

That's the one I have been working on Ginns:

1891 census transcription details for: Doncaster Road, Hooton Roberts
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3857
Folio: 39
Page: 6
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Maltby
Parish: Hooton Roberts
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: Hooton Roberts
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Doncaster Road, Hooton Roberts
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HANDLY, Jane Head Widow F 71 1820
Carthorpe, Yorkshire
HANDLY, John Son Single M 38 1853 Blacksmith
Bawtry, Yorkshire
SIMPSON, Henry Grandson M 14 1877 Farm Labourer
Craigends, Scotland




1881 census transcription details for: Cottage, Hooton-Roberts
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4684
Folio: 59
Page: 29
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Maltby
Parish: Hooton-Roberts
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cottage, Hooton-Roberts
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HANDLEY, Benjamin Head Married M 65 1816 Colliery Weighman
Chesterfield, Derbyshire
HANDLEY, Jane Wife Married F 61 1820 Colliery Weighman Wife
Carthorpe, Yorkshire
HANDLEY, John Son Single M 28 1853 Blacksmiths Striker
Bawtry, Yorkshire
HANDLEY, Isabella Daughter Single F 27 1854 No Occupation
Bawtry, Yorkshire
HANDLEY, Maria Daughter Single F 23 1858 Dressmaker
Kilnhurst, Yorkshire
SIMPSON, Harry Grand Son Single M 4 1877
Craigends, Scotland



Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
Handley Mary Jane Rotherham 9c 655
SIMPSON Henry Rotherham 9c 655

Dea x

Gins

Gins Report 13 Feb 2013 13:15

Thanks Dea, thats a fab start, no wonder I cant find him with his father!

Any luck on the father on the censuses?

x

Dea

Dea Report 13 Feb 2013 13:54

Well, looky here!!!

1871 census transcription details for: Deighton Grove, Naburn
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 4754
Folio: 6
Page: 5
Reg. District: York
Sub District: Escrick
Parish: Naburn
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Deighton Grove, Naburn
County: Yorkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CLIFFORD, Henry Marcus Head M 37 1834 Germany
CLIFFORD, Sarah Step-Mother F 32 1839 Nottinghamshire
PRESTON, Lucy Anne Visitor F 38 1833 Yorkshire
****SIMPSON, Henry Brother M 32 1839 Scotland - NOT 'brother' but BUTLER !!!

POWELL, Charlotte Servant F 28 1843 Yorkshire
ARMSTRON, Hannah Servant F 27 1844 Lincolnshire
****HANDLEY, Mary Jane Servant F 21 1850 Nottinghamshire - Under House Maid

HOPE, Mary Jane Servant F 19 1852 Yorkshire
DREWETT, Samuel Servant M 39 1832 Wiltshire
HALLET, Geo Servant M 53 1818

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Feb 2013 13:58

County Nottinghamshire
Place Worksop
Church St Mary (Priory)
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 07 Feb 1848
Forename Hannah
Sex F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Hannah
FatherSurname HODGKINSON
MotherSurname
Abode Carlton Lane
FatherOccupation Boatman


County Nottinghamshire
Place Worksop
Church St Mary (Priory)
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 27 May 1868
Forename Emily Harriet
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Hannah
FatherSurname
MotherSurname HODGKINSON
Abode Carlton Rd

(adding in case!)

Chris :)

(err!, think you know FreeReg,lol)

Gins

Gins Report 13 Feb 2013 14:28

Oooer.......that looks promising, thank you Dea :-D

Cheers Chris, I think Hannah married William Bullman

Gins

Gins Report 13 Feb 2013 14:43

Cant see Henry and Mary Jane after the marriage :-(