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Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 18:25

IN Oct 1851 in Middlesex.

However, I have only found 3 daughters on the 1881 census for them
ALICE B abt 1864 in India
ELLEN B abt 1867
EMILY B abt 1872

I wondered if there were any more children born before Alice as it
was 13 years before they had any children.

Could someone please check the 1861 and 1871 census' for me to see if
there were any?

JAMES died in 1887
MARY ANN died in 1893

Many thanks for your help



Dea Report 11 Feb 2013 18:31


Person: GREENGRASS, James Henry

Address: County Of Middlesex Industrial School, At Feltham In Middlesex

GREENGRASS, James Henry Discipline Officer M 43 1828 London VIEW
GREENGRASS, Mary Ann Wife F 38 1833 Berkshire VIEW
GREENGRASS, Alice Daughter F 7 1864 India VIEW
GREENGRASS, Ellen Jane Daughter F 3 1868 Middlesex VIEW

Dea x


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 18:35

Thank You Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Feb 2013 18:36

There's a tree showing a son James born 1851

James Greengrass
Birth 1851 in London, Middlesex, England
Death 1917 in England

1871 - Marriage to Mary Ann Daniels

1889 - Marriage to Jemima Apsey
Poplar, London, England


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 18:39

Oh really, that's the year they got married.

Thanks Mike x


Dea Report 11 Feb 2013 18:39

Can't see them on 1861 - sorry!

Dea Xxx


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 18:43

Thanks for looking Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Feb 2013 18:44


name: James Greengrass
age: 30
gender: Male
birth year: 1851
birthplace: London, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Stevedore
address: 47 Peter St
census place: West Ham, Essex, England

James Greengrass 30 London, Middlesex, England
wife Mary Greengrass 29 Poplar, Middlesex, England
son James Greengrass 9 Plaistow, Essex, England
daughter Caroline Greengrass 7 Plaistow, Essex, England
daughter Selina Greengrass 6 Plaistow, Essex, England
daughter Routta Greengrass4 Plaistow, Essex, England
boarder Clara Lyser23 London, Middlesex, England


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 18:52

Well thank you very much Mike........that is great information x


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 18:54


Could I be cheeky and ask you to look for James and his family in
1901 and 1911 if that is possible please ?

Sandra x


K Report 11 Feb 2013 18:55

Do you have this?

First name(s): James Henry


Calculated year of birth: 1827

Parish of birth: St Margarets

Town of birth: Westminster

County of birth: Middlesex

Age at attestation: 14 years

Discharge date: 18 October 1841

Attestation corps:

Attestation soldier number:

Discharge rank: Drum Major

Discharge corps: 46th Reg Of Infantry

Discharge soldier number: 3377

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 1533 / 23


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 19:02

No K I did not have that information......thank you very much, that is
interesting x


K Report 11 Feb 2013 19:08

Will send you the images - They are too detailed to summerise



MarieCeleste Report 11 Feb 2013 19:10

Just this baptism coming up on FamilySearch:

Alice Greengrass, "India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947"

name: Alice Greengrass
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Sep 1863
baptism/christening place: Cawnpore, Bengal, India
birth date: 27 Jul 1863
father's name: James Henry Greengrass
mother's name: Mary Ann

indexing project (batch) number: C49325-1
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 499011
reference number: v 105 p 18

Citing this Record


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 19:15

Thank you MarieCeleste for that information on Alice x


K Report 11 Feb 2013 19:24

This is the 1861 - Sadly no image

Worldwide Army Index1861

First Name(s):James

Last Name:Greengrass


Rank:Drum Major Sergeant

Unit:46th Foot (South Devonshire)

Regiment Stationed at:Jullandur East Indies

National Archives reference:WO12 / 5851


Hollyhocks Report 11 Feb 2013 19:33

Thank you again K for all the info you have sent.......that was very kind of you.

Sandra x