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Census Look up please.

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Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 22:56

I cannot even find these on the 1881 census. Complicated family.
James Robson 1859 Hexham, Northumberland
wife Mary Jane plus three children Hannah Bell 1872, Sarah Bell 1876 and John Bell 1880, there are a lot more children after this date with mainly ROBSON as their surname, as I said very complicate.

What are the chances that Mary Jane Robson would marry two men both using the surname Robson but have children between 1872 - 1900 with the names Bell, Nevison and Robson.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Feb 2013 22:59

Gillian, for us to make sense of this can you give more details, e.g. the Nevison children. Are you saying that a woman born Mary Jane Robson went on to marry two different men also called Robson? When/where was Mary Jane born.

Can you give details of a census that you do have any of them on?

Robson is such a common name here in the North East that we need to check the families aren't mixed up.

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:06

Cannot find them on any census - all the info was found on a family tree and the names connect me to them. But Mary Jane Robson is listed as married twice once to James Robson born Northumberland 1859 and the other husband named as William Robson. James and Mary have listed 33 children as their's, obviously three of them are Bell, names and dates on already. There are three listed as unknown father Elizabeth Nevison Charles Nevison and George Nevison 1901-1909-1920 all the rest are Robson except there is a Joseph Bell 1883 also. As I said very complicated.

patchem

patchem Report 14 Feb 2013 23:08

Is Mary Jane's surname originally Bell?
If you cannot find them on the censuses, how do you know they are in the same family?
Have you got them in 1891 or 1901?
Thank-you

Added:
33 children?
Could you post them?
Thanks

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:09

James Robsons parents are James MacKenzie Robson and Margaret BELL, so maybe those Bell children are from a relative of hers but living with James and Mary. No name for other parents.

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:11

No, her original surname is ROBSON, I cannot access the other census's. They are on the family tree as all being the children of James and Mary's but we know that cannot be so, I mean 33 children and the last being born 1920, a miricle could not make that true.

patchem

patchem Report 14 Feb 2013 23:12

Could you say which one is definitely an ancestor of yours who is alive in 1911?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Feb 2013 23:12

Gillian - for a start, I would take any info on other trees (on any site) with a pinch of salt - unless the tree owner can prove their research and back it up with certificates, etc. So many people copy info willy nilly without verifying.

There are so many Robsons around people may have just added them all together. I'm very suspicious of "James and Mary have listed 33 children as their's"

To be brutally honest, I would completely ignore any of the info you have seen on other trees and just do my own research on the people I KNOW to be related.

patchem

patchem Report 14 Feb 2013 23:14

Where were hannah, Sarah and John Bell born?
Hexham or elsewhere?

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:16

Hannah Bell 1872, Sarah Bell 1876, John Bell, 1880, George Robson 1882, Joseph Bell 1883, George Robson 1844, Annie Robson 1884, Geoffrey Robson 1887, listed twice??, James Robson 1891, Ernest Robson 1891, Amy and Ann Robson 1896, Mary 1897, Emily 1899, Robert 1899, Alice 1899, Jane and Thomas 1901 all Robsons. Louisa Robson 1901, Robert Robson 1909, Robart Robson 1920. By nknown Father Elizabeth Nevison 1881, Robart Navison 1888. Then Thomas 1885, Jane 1887, William 1885, Jane 1887, William 1890, Robert 1894, Edward 1897 and Lily 1900 all Robson??????????

patchem

patchem Report 14 Feb 2013 23:17

?
1911 England Census
James Robson Age in 1911: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male Birth Place: Hexham, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: West Hartlepool County/Island: Durham
Country: England Street Address: 39 Tower St West Hpool
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer Not Employed
Registration district: Hartlepool
Registration District Number: 545 Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Piece: 29633
James Robson 52
Mary Robson 52
Frederick Robson 22
James Robson 20
Mary Robson 14
Robert Robson 12
Elizebeth Robson 5
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 29633; ; .

Married 30 years, 12 children, 8 living.

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:21

Mary Jane Robson is the daughter of one of my Shield members family, still alive in 1911 should be George Robson 1884-1957 James Frederick 1887-`953Ernest, Ann and Amy Robson died after 1911.

Bells born in County Durham.

patchem

patchem Report 14 Feb 2013 23:21

1901 England Census
James Robson
Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Robson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hexham, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: West Hartlepool Ecclesiastical parish: Stranton All Saints
County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 61 Household schedule number: 249 Piece: 4641 Folio: 134 Page Number: 42
James Robson 42
Mary J Robson 42
Frederick Robson 13
James Robson 10
Mary Robson 4
Robert Robson 2
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4641; Folio: 134; Page: 42.

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:24

Yes Marie, I agree with you, so when I seen them all I thought I would try and find evidence myself, without much luck, but certainly keeping me busy xx

patchem

patchem Report 14 Feb 2013 23:25

1891 England Census
James Robson Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Robson
Gender: Male Where born: Hexham, Durham, England
Civil parish: Gateshead Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Piece: 4182 Folio: 86 Page Number: 37
James Robson 31
Mary Robson 32
Elizabeth Robson 8
John Robson 7
Mary Robson 5
Frederick Robson 3
Sarah Robson 2
James Robson 1
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4182; Folio: 86; Page: 37; GSU roll: 6099292.

Gillian Jennifer

Gillian Jennifer Report 14 Feb 2013 23:27

Thank you very much the the census lists xx