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Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Feb 2013 06:34

Looking for John William Thackeray born c1870 Ripley
Married Jane Ann Senior 1870 Armley died 1904

In 1911 John William Thackeray is Annie Elizabeth Thackeray 1867
and Fred Thackeray 1898

Can you give me the details please

Thank you

Astra

Astra Report 15 Feb 2013 06:41

1911

1911 census transcription details for: 18 Edinburgh Place

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN26911 RG78PN1545 RD499 SD3 ED41 SN160
Reg. District: Bramley
Sub District: Wortley
Parish: Armley and Bramley
Enum. District: 41
Address: 18 Edinburgh Place
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
THACKERAY, John William Head Married
1 years M 41 1870 Joiner Burnt Yates Clint
THACKERAY, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married F 44 1867 Cleckheaton
THACKERAY, Fred Son M 13 1898 School Armley Yorks

1901

1901 census transcription details for: 5, Ely Street, Armley

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4212
Folio: 42
Page: 19
Reg. District: Bramley
Sub District: Wortley
Parish: Armley
Enum. District: 32
Ecclesiastical District: St Bartholomew
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Ely Street, Armley
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
THACKERAY, John W Head Married M 31 1870 Joiner
Burnt Gates Clint, Yorkshire
THACKERAY, Jane A Wife Married F 31 1870
Armley, Yorkshire
THACKERAY, Fred Son M 3 1898
Armley, Yorkshire


Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
SHEAD Annie Elizabeth N.Bierley 9b 530
STEAD Annie Elizabeth N. Bierley 9b 530
THACKERAY John William N. Bierley 9b 530

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Feb 2013 06:51

Thank you Astra
My guy is born Ripley I wonder if its near Burnt Yates Clint

Does it say how long he has been married please

Astra

Astra Report 15 Feb 2013 06:52

1911 married 1 year

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Feb 2013 06:53

Thank you Astra you have found their marriage

Astra

Astra Report 15 Feb 2013 06:55

Their marriage is posted above and Burnt Yates Clint is about 3km from Ripley

Have checked and it looks like she was Annie Stead

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4172
Folio: 48
Page: 17
Reg. District: North Bierley
Sub District: Cleckheaton
Parish: Cleckheaton
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Mortimer Street, Cleckheaton
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEAD, Rufus Head Married M 64 1837 Tailor
Roberttown, Yorkshire
STEAD, Sarah Wife Married F 63 1838
Cleckheaton, Yorkshire
STEAD, Emily Daughter Single F 37 1864 Flannel Weaver
Cleckheaton, Yorkshire
STEAD, Annie Daughter Single F 34 1867 Brace Machinist
Cleckheaton, Yorkshire
STEAD, Clara Daughter Single F 30 1871 Small Wire Drawer
Cleckheaton, Yorkshire
STEAD, Leonard Son Single M 26 1875 Mechanic's Turner
Cleckheaton, Yorkshire

Flip

Flip Report 15 Feb 2013 07:04

Fred Thackeray
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1897
Parish: Armley, St Bartholomew
Baptism Date: 11 Aug 1897
Father's Name: John William Thackeray (joiner)
Mother's Name: Jane Ann Thackeray

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Feb 2013 07:09

Vera would you be kind enough to look for Charles Thackeray 1845 Ripley in 1871 1861 1851
He is the father of John William and I have them in 1881
John Thackeray 1845 brother of Charles is living with them

They are both joiners

Thank you very much

Spent ages in the library but its so slow The computers were like dial up It drove me crazy

Astra

Astra Report 15 Feb 2013 07:09

Annie may have died in 1916

Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%)
Thackeray Annie E 49 Bramley 9b 368

Flip

Flip Report 15 Feb 2013 07:10

John William Thackeray (joiner)
Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 27
Marriage or Bann Date: 5 Sep 1896
Parish: Armley, St Bartholomew
Father's Name: Charles Thackeray (joiner)
Spouse's Name: Jane Ann Senior (27)
Spouse's Father's Name: John Burnet (Shoemaker)

Both o Armley, witnesses Elijah Butterfield & Mary Senior

Flip

Flip Report 15 Feb 2013 07:29

1891
Charles Thackeray
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Thackeray
Gender: Male
Where born: Ripley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Armley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bramley
Sub-registration district: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3681
Folio: 114
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Thackeray 49
Sarah A Thackeray 50
John W Thackeray 21
Charles R Thackeray 20
Mary H Thackeray 18
Gertrude Thackeray 16

1871
Charles Thackeray
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Thackeray
Gender: Male
Where born: Clint, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Clint
Ecclesiastical parish: Ripley
Town: Burnt Yates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Pateley Bridge
Sub-registration district: Dacre Banks
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 4274
Folio: 69
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Thackeray 29
Sarah A Thackeray 30
John W Thackeray 2
Charles R Thackeray 7 Months

Flip

Flip Report 15 Feb 2013 07:37

Haven't found him 1861/51 yet, but this could be their marriage:

Charles Thackeray (joiner)
Birth Date: abt 1842
Event Type: Marriage
Father: James Thackeray (joiner, deceased)
Marriage Date: 21 Jan 1868
Marriage Age: 26
Spouse: Sarah Ann Petty (no father named), of Heaton Mount
Spouse Marriage Age: 28
Archive Location: Wakefield
Parish or Chapel: Kirkgate Chapel
Residence Place: Kirkgate, Ripon
Reel Number: Bradford, Stephen Road (Later Bethel Methodist); WC 5
Reference Number: C111/98

Witnesses John Grange & Ann Elizabeth Lindley?

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Feb 2013 07:53

Thank you Astra and Flip. It was those earlier census I needed to find Charles with his brother John

In 1881 they are down as Thackwray

I have to go now but will check later incase anyone has found them

Flip

Flip Report 15 Feb 2013 08:00

Charles Thackwray
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Thackwray
Mother's Name: Mary Thackwray
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ripley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ripley
Town: Clint
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Knaresborough
Sub-registration district: Boroughbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 2282
Folio: 133
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
James Thackwray 46 (carpenter)
Mary Thackwray 46
Ann Thackwray 18
William Thackwray 15
James Thackwray 13
Elizabeth Thackwray 9 <<<
Charles Thackwray 9 <<<
John Thackwray 6
Mary Helen Thackwray 1
George Walker 17

Looks like Charles was a twin, both registered Knaresborough Q4/1841

Flip

Flip Report 15 Feb 2013 08:49

1841 - this transcription is a right mess:

James Thackurby
[James Thackwray]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ripley
Hundred: Claro (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Knaresborough
Sub-registration district: Harrogate
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1286
Book: 5
Folio: 11
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
James Thackurby 35 (wheelwright)
Mary Thackurby 35
Richard Thackurby 13
Bartho Crmew 10 (Bartholomew)
Ann Crmew 8 (Ann Thackwray)
William Crmew 6 (William Thackwray)
James Hackway 3 (Thackwray)

John Appleby 20
William Catharito 15

Astra

Astra Report 15 Feb 2013 13:27

Is this the same family in 1861 or a different one?

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 3195
Folio: 74
Page: 1
Reg. District: Pateley Bridge
Sub District: 4 Dacre Banks
Parish: Clint
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Pye Lane, Clint
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
THACKRAY, Mary F 56 1805 Joiner Business
Ripley, Yorkshire
THACKRAY, Ann Th Daughter Unmarried F 28 1833 Dressmaker
Burton Leonard, Yorkshire
THACKRAY, James Son Unmarried M 23 1838 Joiner And Carpenter
Ripley, Yorkshire
THACKRAY, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842
Ripley, Yorkshire
THACKRAY, Charles Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Farmer And Cap
Ripley, Yorkshire
THACKRAY, John Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Farmer And Cap
Ripley, Yorkshire
THACKRAY, Mary E Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Ripley, Yorkshire

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Feb 2013 20:43

Thank you all
Yes Astra that looks like the correct family in 1861

Where was father James born please.I found a birth for James Thackeray 1805 Burton Leonard Parents Richard and Elizabeth

Thanks for all your help

Astra

Astra Report 16 Feb 2013 06:52

In 1851 he gives his birth place as Burton Leonard

His father being Richard would make sense. If James married Mary Ann Walker in 1826 (there is a George Walker with them as an apprentice in 1851) their first child born in 1827 was Richard.

name: Richard Thackwray
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 Sep 1827
baptism/christening place: BURTON LEONARD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Thackwray
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C01214-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 990895

Flip

Flip Report 16 Feb 2013 07:41

Yes, Astra's 1861 looks like the right family - I'll delete the other one I posted earlier.

Your birth looks promising Quinsgran, and there is a marriage for Richard to Elizabeth Outhwaite 30/7/1792 at Burton Leonard (family search), children Mary 1795, William 1798, Charles 1801, James 1805 & Lucy 1806.

Flip

Flip Report 16 Feb 2013 08:44

James died Q4/1860 - this is his probate:

James Thackeray
Probate Date: 24 Dec 1860
Death Date: 11 Nov 1860
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Wakefield

The will of James Thackeray late of Clint in parish of Ripley, carpenter - proved by widow Mary Thackeray, sole executor - estate under £200