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Mary Ann Goddard

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Janet

Janet Report 17 Feb 2013 13:36

To Chris and trailertrash (I'm embarrassed to call you that - sounds insulting!!!)I think with your help we have established that Mary Ann was the daughter of George and Liz ( the information that Emma was a 14 year old visitor to the household of Robert King where Mary Ann worked, clinches it). I suppose my imagination is working overtime, but a branch of Kings were baronets of Irish origin, and one was a whig MP for Cork. This is where I get carried away!!! William, Mark's father was born in Cork, to Mark Hudson ( the Mark in question wasobviously named after granddad) to a woman of which i know nothing called Christian Fraser. Anyhow. me and my second cousin once removed (I think that's right) Karl Hudson, who lives in Hong Kong, think that Mark was a soldier sent to Ireland to help quell the 1798 rebellion, met Christian, tied the knot had William and returned to Holt. Could he have perhaps met with grooms from the King family and an association built up, and somehow there was a connection (trailer mentions Elizabeth Hudson), hence the fact that they were both far from home when they met! It makes sense that a member of the peerage, could have a house in a posh place like Portland Place. Sounds very much that Mrs George Goddard could have been the former Miss Harrison provided she was born in Finchampstead. Sorry ignore me -I tend to day dream in glorious tchnicolour! ;-)

Janet

Janet Report 17 Feb 2013 12:31

Sorry Chris - did not read after Mark Hudson, Staines(cringes with embarrassment) Must be them - took him a long time to pop the question!!

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 17 Feb 2013 11:34

Ancestry has George as marrying Elizabeth Hudson(Mary Ann married Mark Hudson later), although family search has a possible Elizabeth Harrison as Georges' wife...

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 17 Feb 2013 11:26

1841 census ( 1851 George is stated as 1804...)

George 1816 born berkshire
Elizabeth 1816
Clara 1840

Clara's birth was 1839 Wokingham,, could this be a possible birth for George

George birth 1816, christened 1826 both finchampstead, son of James and Sarah as per familysearch????

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Feb 2013 10:30

Mark 1871 posted above Janet...working as a Groom.

Chris :)

Janet

Janet Report 17 Feb 2013 10:18

Thanks everyone, I tend to go for the George/Elizabeth liaison as they obviously had an older a daughter born 1840 which makes the 1804 paternal birth date more feasible. Chris Ho - the Staines connection is interesting - as Mary Ann does not appear to be at home with the George and Elizabeth combo in 1861 - it would be interesting to establish if she was born in Finchampstead.Do you know where in Staines Mark was, Chris? - because he would have worked with horses as his father William was also a coachman; We should take more notice of our parents and grandparents when they are alive,as I have a vague recollection of my grandma(Amy Hudson) talking about her grandfather being a farmer -but I don't know if she ever went to Finchamstead as she was born in Portland Place London in 1883 (obviously where Mark worked) Amy married Alfred Cooper in 1904, in Weybourne, and one thing of note is that all nine of their offspring lived until they were well into their nineties as did Amy herself ! Thanks for all the help

Flip

Flip Report 17 Feb 2013 09:25

The George & Ann from the earlier 1871 census posted are still alive & kicking in 1881 - with their 2 youngest children - so I think that rules out that couple?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Feb 2013 09:06

1871 ?
KING, Robert Head M 50 1821 Surrey
KING, Eliza Wife F 41 1830 Suffolk
GODDARD, Mary Servant F 26 1845 Berkshire (Finchampstead?)
GODDARD, Emma Visitor F 14 1857 Berkshire
DAVIS, Elizabeth Servant F 20 1851 Surrey
Piece: 1304
Folio: 123
Page: 27
Registration District: Staines
Civil Parish: Shepperton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Halliford, Lower, Shepperton
County: Middlesex

(wondered about above, as Mark Hudson also in Staines)

Chris :)

1861
SMITH, Harcourt Head Married M 58 1803 Fund Holder
Epsom, Surrey
JONES, Maria Companion Widow F 38 1823 Widow
Manchester, Lancashire
PRESTON, Maria Servant Widow F 47 1814 Cook & Housekeeper
Newbury, Berkshire
GODDARD, Mary A Servant Unmarried F 16 1845 Housemaid
Finchampstead, Berkshire
Piece: 752
Folio: 175
Page: 13
Registration District: Wokingham
Civil Parish: Sonning
Municipal Borough:
Address: Sonning Village, Sonning
County: Berkshire

1861
GODDARD, George Head Married M 56 1805 Farmer Of 35 Acres Employes 1 Man
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1815 Farmers Wife
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, Emma Daughter F 4 1857
Finchampstead, Berkshire
CLACY, George Servant Unmarried M 27 1834 Farm Servant
Finchampstead, Berkshire
Piece: 751
Folio: 42
Page: 11
Registration District: Wokingham
Civil Parish: Finchampstead
Municipal Borough:
Address: Nine Mile Ride, Finchampstead
County: Berkshire

1851
GODDARD, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1846
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, George Head Married M 47 1804 Farmer Of 50 Acres
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 37 1814
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, Clara Daughter F 11 1840
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, Mary Ann Daughter F 6 1845
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, Edwin Son M 9 1842
Finchampstead, Berkshire
GODDARD, George Son M 1 1850
Finchampstead, Berkshire
Piece: 1693
Folio: 110
Page: 1
Registration District: Wokingham
Civil Parish: Finchampstead
Municipal Borough:
Address: Fleet Hill Farm, Finchampstead
County: Berkshire


1871 (Mark Hudson)
PETTAFOR, William Head M 31 1840 Kent
LITCHFIELD, Clayton Visitor M 47 1824 Ireland
MORLET, Augustus A Visitor M 32 1839 London
HOUSE, William W Servant M 35 1836 Oxfordshir
HOUSE, Ann Servant F 34 1837 Sussex
HUDSON, Mark Servant M 26 1845 Norfolk (Holt) (Groom)
Piece: 1304
Folio: 110
Page: 1
Registration District: Staines
Civil Parish: Shepperton
Municipal Borough:
Address: Shepperton Range, Shepperton
County: Middlesex

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 17 Feb 2013 08:59

There are two to look at

1851 census Wokingham

Mary ann 1846 born finchampstead
dau of George 1827 (a carpenter)
Ann wife

or

Mary ann 1845 born finchampstead
dau of George 1804
Elizabeth wife

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 17 Feb 2013 08:56

name: George Goddard
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1826
baptism/christening place: FINCHAMPSTEAD, BERKSHIRE, ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Jeremiah Goddard
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 17 Feb 2013 08:54

1871:

name: Mary Ann Goddard
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 25
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Finchampstead, Berkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Wokingham
sub-district: Wokingham
event parish: Finchampstead
county: Berkshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head George Goddard M 44 Finchampstead, Berkshire
wife Ann Goddard F 45 Finchampstead, Berkshire
daughter Mary Ann Goddard F 25 Finchampstead, Berkshire
daughter Alice Goddard F 21 Finchampstead, Berkshire
son Arthur Goddard M 15 Finchampstead, Berkshire
son Scott Goddard M 13 Finchampstead, Berkshire
daughter Selina Goddard F 12 Finchampstead, Berkshire
daughter Rhoda Goddard F 9 Finchampstead, Berkshire
daughter Anne A Goddard F 7 Finchampstead, Berkshire
son Alfred Geo Goddard M 5 Finchampstead, Berkshire

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 17 Feb 2013 08:47

several trees on A with census in 1851 1861 and 1871 have this marriage

Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
GODDARD Ann Reading 6 449
GODDARD George Reading 6 449

Janet

Janet Report 17 Feb 2013 08:33

I'm trying to find the names of the parents of my great-grandmother Mary Ann Goddard, who was born in Finchampstead Berkshire in 1845. In 1877 she married, at the age of 32, Mark Hudson of Holt Norfolk who, according to the marriage certificate was working as a coachman somewhere in the West End of London - his address at the time was 'The Red Lion' Brompton road and they married at The Parish Church, in the Parish of Holy Trinity Brompton - her address is very hard to decipher , but it looks like 3, Lloyds place. No occupation is recorded for her, and under her father's name the only thing written is in brackets - dead. They later lived in Pitts Head Mews, London and later returned to Norfolk where Mark ran the Ship Inn Webourne. Mark was 33 and Mary Ann 32 at the time of marriage, which was older than average for Victorian times. I wonder if she looked after her sick father who must have died before 1877. I would be interested to know if anyone has any information on this Goddard family, of which there seemed to be quite a few,( hence my problem), in Finchampstead - Janet :-S