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Wendy

Wendy Report 17 Feb 2013 23:11

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1901 England Census
about Ellen Roundhill
Name: Ellen Roundhill
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John T Roundhill
Mother's Name: Mary Ellen Roundhill
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 4201
Folio: 126
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
John T Roundhill 34
Mary Ellen Roundhill 31
James Roundhill 10
John Roundhill 6
Ellen Roundhill 4
George Roundhill 2
Harry Roundhill 3 Months


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ROUNDHILL, Ellen
Address: 26 Markham Place Leeds

PITTS, William Head Widower M 53 1858 Girder Painter Leeds Yorks VIEW
ROUNDHILL, Mary Ellen Housekeeper Married21 years F 41 1870 Briddington Yorks VIEW
ROUNDHILL, John Robert Son Single M 16 1895 Fitter Mecanix Shop Leeds Yorks VIEW
ROUNDHILL, Ellen Daughter F 14 1897 Servant Leeds Yorks VIEW
ROUNDHILL, George Son M 12 1899 School Leeds Yorks VIEW
ROUNDHILL, Harry Son M 10 1901 Discharged For School Leeds Yorks VIEW
PITTS, May Daughter F 3 1908 Leeds Yorks VIEW
PITTS, Annie Daughter F 1 1910 Leeds Yorks VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 26961
Reference: RG14PN26961 RG78PN1547 RD500 SD2 ED18 SN309
Registration District: Leeds
Sub District: North Leeds
Enumeration District: 18
Parish: Leeds
Address: 26 Markham Place Leeds
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

That bit is definitely correct, I'm not too sure about the part before it

Wendy

Wendy Report 17 Feb 2013 23:24

Are you able to find any information on Leonard Walker (Ellen' Husband), I've managed to find that his death was in 1964 but I can't find a birth date.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 08:32

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Leonard Walker
Name: Leonard Walker
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1964
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 190

According to the death entry he was born in 1901. There are few Leonard Walker's born in 1901......but without knowing where he was born, any one of them could be your Leonard.

What you really need is a copy of the marriage cert.........but as there does not appear to be a marriage registered between a Leonard Walker and Ellen Roundhill in England or Wales..........It's tricky.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 09:13

Banns...

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about John Thomas Roundhill
Name: John Thomas Roundhill
Marriage or Bann Date: 28 Jul 1889
Parish: Leeds, St Edmund
Spouse's Name: Mary Ellen Wallis

Mary

Mary Report 18 Feb 2013 10:20

Isn't that the marriage in Portsmouth 1916?

My Aunty Sarah ELLEN was always known as Nellie!


Maryb.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 10:28

I did suggest that Ellen used the "nickname" of Nellie.

It's the only marriage i can find Mary.

A long way to go to get married though isn't it?............From Leeds Yorkshire to Porstmouth in Hampshire.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 10:37

This is interesting............

Here is Mary Ellen Wallis with her Father Robert Wallis (A Fisherman) in the 1881 census.


1881 England Census
about Robert Wallis
Name: Robert Wallis
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann E. Wallis
Gender: Male
Where born: Brid Quay, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bridlington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Garden Walk
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Fisherman

Registration district: Bridlington
Sub-registration district: Bridlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4798
Folio: 161
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Wallis 41 (Fisherman)
Ann E. Wallis 38
George W. Wallis 17
Robert T. Wallis 16
Ann E. Wallis 12
Mary E. Wallis 10
Frederick A. Wallis 8
Kate Wallis 6
Jane Wallis 4
Henry Wallis 1
Elizabeth Hutchinson 75


Following on from the Banns i posted for Mary Ellen and John Thomas Roundhill...



West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Mry Ellen Wallis
Name: Mry Ellen Wallis (Spinster)
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 1 Sep 1889
Parish: Leeds, St Edmund
Father's Name: Robert Wallis (Fisherman)
Spouse's Name: John Thomas Dovener (Mechanic) Bachelor
Spouse's Father's Name: John Dovener (Mechanic)


Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
Dovener John Thomas Leeds 9b 721
Wallis Mary Ellen Leeds 9b 721



1881 England Census
about Jno. Thos. Dooerner Roundhill
Name: Jno. Thos. Dooerner Roundhill
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Hunslet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 47 Bewerley St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4491
Folio: 57
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Jno. Godfrey Earnshaw 38
Elizabeth Earnshaw 32
Emily Earnshaw 14
Geo. Wm. Earnshaw 12
Jonas Walter Earnshaw 10
Albert Earnshaw 8
Clara Earnshaw 4
Jno. Thos. Dooerner Roundhill 13
Amelia Roundhill 12 (Boarder)


Robert Wallis and Ann's marriage.....


Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Wallis Robert Bridlington 9d 536

Spouse missing from entry..........Here she is.........

Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Hutchinson Ann Ellen Bridlington 9d 556





Mary

Mary Report 18 Feb 2013 10:58

1911 Horsforth
Leonard Walker Machine fitter (same as on birth cert for Jack 1928) born 1893 Horsforth
John Gray Walker 1850 horsforth a Joiner.
Elizabeth wife married 14 years no children.

1901 John Gray Walker with Elizabeth.
John Gray Walker married Elizabeth Tunstall in Bradford 1899.

Leonard baptised by John G Walker and Phoebe.
John G Walker married Mary lofthouse in Guisley 1872.
1881 John at home with parents Benjamin 1808 a Joiner and Isabella 1807 ,John is a widow with sons
Joseph 9
John B 5
Ernest 4.

I can't see a marriege for John Gray Walker and Phoebe.

Death Leonard Walker born @ 1893 died Leeds 1942 9b 266.

Maryb.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 11:00

I already posted that 1911 census Mary with Father John Gray Walker.
As you can see from the census.........Leonards occupation at that time is an Iron Turner. His Brother Fred is the Machine Fitter..



West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985
about Amelia Dovener
Name: Amelia Dovener
Birth Date: 24 Mar 1869
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Dovener
Mother: Alice Roundhill
Baptism Date: 8 Nov 1880
Archive Location: Leeds
Parish or Chapel: Bethel Chapel, Holbeck
Reel Number: Beeston Hill, Beeston, Gildersome, Holbeck, Hunslet, Leeds, New Wortley; LNC 4


West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985
about John Thomas Dovener
Name: John Thomas Dovener
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1861 ??
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Dovener
Mother: Alice Roundhill
Baptism Date: 8 Nov 1880
Archive Location: Leeds
Parish or Chapel: Bethel Chapel, Holbeck
Reel Number: Beeston Hill, Beeston, Gildersome, Holbeck, Hunslet, Leeds, New Wortley; LNC 4

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 11:11

John appears as "Dovener" in the 1891 cencus......

(Dovener on the image)

1891 England Census
about John Thomas Danner
Name: John Thomas Danner
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ellen Danner
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3686
Folio: 48
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John Thomas Danner 24
Mary Ellen Danner 24
Thomas William Danner 3/12
George B Adcock 19 (Nephew)



Mary

Mary Report 18 Feb 2013 11:33

There is someone on here with leonard 1893 and Ellen Roundhill.

Maybe its worth contacting them.

Maryb.

Wendy

Wendy Report 18 Feb 2013 11:37

The Bridlington link does look interesting as there is a link to Mary Ellen to Bridlington.

I'm wondering whether Leonard Walker was in the navy as to why they married in Portsmouth. From what I can work out Ellen would have been nearly 3 months pregnant with their first child Leonard when the married. They married in Dec and Leonard was born the following June.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 11:51

Amelia appears as "Donever" in the 1891 census and she is still with the Earnsahaw family........

1891 England Census
about John G Earnshaw
Name: John G Earnshaw
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Earnshaw
Gender: Male
Where born: Beeston Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3666
Folio: 6
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John G Earnshaw 49
Elizabeth Earnshaw 42
George W Earnshaw 22
Jonas W Earnshaw 20
Albert Earnshaw 18
Clara Earnshaw 14
Amelia Dovener 22 (Cousin) Hunslet Yorkshire
Mary J Whitmore 22


Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Earnshaw Godfrey John Hunslet 9b 462
Hemingway Elizabeth Hunslet 9b 462



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 13:16

It seems Mary Ellen Roundhill went on to marry William Pitts who appears as "Housekeeper" in the 1911 census...........

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Pitts William Roundhill Leeds 9b 1108
Roundhill Mary E Pitts Leeds 9b 1108


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Mary E Pitts
Name: Mary E Pitts
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1933
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Leeds South
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 468


Wendy

Wendy Report 18 Feb 2013 13:22

I've got that one, they had 2 children together. I think one of the children is called May. Will confirm all details I have later today.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 13:39

Amelia married under the surname of Roundhill.......

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
Roundhill Amelia Hunslet 9b 483
Wainwright Thomas Hunslet 9b 483


1901 England Census
about Amelia Wainwright
Name: Amelia Wainwright
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Wainwright
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Piece: 4196
Folio: 113
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Wainwright 30 (Tobacconist's Traveller)
Amelia Wainwright 32
Ernest Wainwright 5
Marion Wainwright 7 Months
John Wainwright 78 (Father) Retired Tobacconist



Wendy

Wendy Report 18 Feb 2013 20:32

There is definitely quite a few links there that are possibilities

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Feb 2013 21:35

I would be inclined to purchase a copy of Leonard and Nellie's marriage certificate..........at least that way you will know for sure if it's the right couple.