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I am trying to trace the birth of Thomas Jordan and his father James.
Thomas married Hannah Elsdon in Wells next the Sea on 9th August 1880.
Thomas is recorded as a mariner on the marriage certificate.
I am looking for the birth and place of birth for both Thomas and his father James Jordan

Keith, please can you give all info from cert - Thomas's age, father's occupation, names of witnesses and address if given.
Where is Wells next the Sea??
Jan

Norfolk I see!

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Elsdon Hannah Walsingham 4b 501
Jordan Thomas Walsingham 4b 501

Is this them? Thomas is a merchant sailor:


1891 England Census
Name: Thomas Jordan
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Jordan
Gender: Male
Where born: Wisbech, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
Town: Bromley
County/Island: London:

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley

Thomas Jordan 40
Hannah Jordan 35 Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England
Emma Jordan 9
Maud Jordan 8
Thomas Jordan 6
Arthur Jordan 4
James Jordan 2
Henry Jordan 2/12

Possible but doesn't help!

1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Jordan
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: East Stonehouse
Town: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Marine Barracks Plymouth

I think the 1891 above is right: Not sure about those relationships for the Jordans!

1881 England Census a
Name: Hannah Jordan
[Hannah Elsdon]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Harriet Elsdon
Gender: Female
Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Wells Next Sea
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Freeman Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Walsingham
Sub-registration district: Wells

Harriet Elsdon 56
Hannah Jordan 24
John Elsdon 12
Emily Elsdon 4
James Jordan 26 nephew Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England
Frank Jordan 21 nephew Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England

Hannah a widow by 1901.

1901 England Census
Name: Hannah Jordan
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wells, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: East Ham St Mary Magdalene
Town: East Ham
County/Island: Essex

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: East Ham

Hannah Jordan 41
Emma Jordan 19
Maud Jordan 18
Thos Jordan 16
Arthur Jordan 13
James Jordan 12
Harry Jordan 10
William Jordan 8
Lorne Jordan 5

Details from the marriage certificate are:-
DATE 8th August 1880, NAME Thomas Jordan, AGED 30, Bachelor,
OCCUPATION, Mariner, RESIDENCE, Wells next the Sea. FATHERS NAME, James Jordan, OCCUPATION, Maltster.
James is the best option for the fathers name.
The registration district is Walsingham.
Witnesses names are Henry Cooke and Laura Wright??
Wells next the sea is in the county of Norfolk

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births

And before 1837, there were no birth registrations at all