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If there was a Joseph and he was born in 1853 but doesn't show on 1861 census, then he was either staying with other members of the family such as grandparents or uncles or aunties, or he died.

this one is correct reg.dist. but no proof that it is your boy ????

Deaths Dec 1858 (>99%)
Griffiths Joseph Holywell 11b 197

Thank you Reggie for looking.

Jean

Yes Alviegal, Yes that s the family i have and as you can see there is no Joseph. Thank you for your help.

Jean.

So sorry Reggie his mothers name was Jane not Margaret.

Jean

So 1861.

1861 census transcription details for: Tyr Capil, Whitford
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4267
Folio: 27
Page: 22
Reg. District: Holywell
Sub District: 1 Whitford
Parish: Whitford
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Tyr Capil, Whitford
County: Flintshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GRIFFITHS, Thomas Head Married M 25 1836 Lead Miner
Liverpool, Lancashire
GRIFFITHS, Jane Wife Married F 27 1834
Flint St Asaph
GRIFFITHS, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860
Flint Whitford

I give up...................

Is this them? Note mother's name is Jane not Margaret.

1871 census transcription details for: Berthengam, Llanasa Trelogan
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5637
Folio: 41
Page: 14
Reg. District: Holywell
Sub District: Whitford
Parish: Llanasa Trelogan
Enum. District: 8D
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Berthengam, Llanasa Trelogan
County: Flintshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GRIFFITHS, Thomas Head M 35 1836 Lancashire
GRIFFITHS, Jane Wife F 38 1833 Flintshire
GRIFFITHS, Margaret Daughter F 11 1860 Flintshire
GRIFFITHS, Jane Daughter F 7 1864 Flintshire
GRIFFITHS, John Son M 3 1868 Flintshire

If Margaret was born in 1860, how could she have had a child in 1853?

Sorry Reggie,
Thomas Griffiths was born 1836/37 in Liverpool. Margaret B 1860 Llanasa Flintshire

Jean

Reggie,
Born 1853 Llanasa Flintshire. Wales

Have you asked your informant on Mundia to provide evidence of the 1853 birth?

They shouldn't make statements they can't back up..........

Can't see them together on 1861 !!

Can you not ask this person for a census reference ??

Dea x

Thomas and Margaret born when?

'lived in Llanasa' when?

And which COUNTY?

We can't search without proper info...............

I have a Thomas&Margaret Griffiths lived in Llanasa Wales children Margaret,John & jane. I think there could be another child Joseph B 1853 only because someone on Mundia told me but i have not been able to find him myself. Would someone please give me some help with this.

Thank You
Jean