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Ronald Augustus Davis 1921 Southampton

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Thelma

Thelma Report 21 Feb 2013 15:20

I am trying to find his paternal line but I am getting confused.
Could you all please give your opinion if his grandfather is John Thomas Davis or John Tank Davis or are they the same man.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Feb 2013 15:29

Before knowing who his grandfather was is it not important that you know who his father was?

What was the fathers name and when and where was he born?

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Feb 2013 15:32

As Ronald Augustus Davis mmn is Hoare,

the only marriage i can find for Davis to a Hoare that fits is this one


Marriages Dec 1915
Davis William H Hoare Christchurch 2b 2060

married Alice D Hoare

Roy

Astra

Astra Report 21 Feb 2013 15:33

Is this his parents marriage

Civil Registration event: Marriage

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Name: DAVIS, John
Registration district: South Stoneham
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1904
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 2C
Page no: 180
MarriageFinder: John Davis married one of the following people:

HOARE, Beatrice Frances

EDIT: Not this couple

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Feb 2013 15:39

Where did you get the John Thomas Davis or John Tank Davis info from?

Roy

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Feb 2013 15:39

Siblings?

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Davis Nellie A Hoare Southampton 2c 123
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Davis Ronald A Hoare Southampton 2c 131
Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Davis William E H Hoare Christchurch 2b 1166

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Feb 2013 15:40

Someone on Ancestry has the above parents, grandparents John Thomas Davis and Mary Jane Hack. But you would need their marriage cert to be certain this is correct.
Jan

Thelma

Thelma Report 21 Feb 2013 15:46

These are his parents
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name:JOHN
Last Name:DAVIS
Birth Year:1883
Age:28
Where Born:SOUTHAMPTON
BEATRICE DAVIS 1884 27 WIFE
SIDNEY DAVIS 1907 4 SON
GUENDOLINE DAVIS 1909 2 DAUGHTER
ETHEL HOARE 1897 14 SISTER

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Feb 2013 15:48

If the siblings that Jonesey has posted are correct then buy the marriage cert that i posted above, that is the best way to be sure you have the correct family

Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Feb 2013 15:53

So whats the answer to my question above that you have not answered yet

My post 21 Feb 2013 15:39 Where did you get the John Thomas Davis or John Tank Davis info from?

your question was, is it John Thomas Davis or John Tank Davis




Roy


Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2013 15:55

" is John Thomas Davis or John Tank Davis or are they the same man."

Explain, please............give FULL info - especially DATES and LOCATION

Posting 1911 census does not answer the question posed by Roy

Astra

Astra Report 21 Feb 2013 15:58

Tracing it back (if the John and Beatrice marriage is correct) these are the Grandparents but I'm sure his name isn't Colin. It could be John but it's difficult to read.

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1208
Folio: 127
Page: 33
Reg. District: Southampton
Sub District: Southampton
Parish: Southampton St Mary
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 20, Standford St, Southampton St Mary
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BROWN, William Head Married M 41 1840 Dock Laborer
Southampton, Hampshire
BROWN, Mary Wife Married F 29 1852
Ireland
BROWN, Jefecoe Son Single M 5 1876
Manchester, Lancashire
BROWN, Frederick Son Single M 3 1878
Portland, Dorset
BROWN, George Son Single M 0 1881
Southampton, Hampshire
STEPHENS, John Boarder Head Married M 18 1863 Dock Laborer
Bishops Waltham, Hampshire
DAVIS, Colin Boarder Head Married M 29 1852 Dock Laborer
Bishops Waltham, Hampshire
DAVIS, Mary Boarder Wife Married F 23 1858
Southampton, Hampshire
DAVIS, Harry Boarder Son Single M 1 1880
Southampton, Hampshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2013 16:05

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
Davis John Thomas Southampton 2c 19
Elsey Eliza Southampton 2c 19
Hack Mary Ann Southampton 2c 19
Hack Mary Jane Southampton 2c 19
Tigg James Frederick Southampton 2c 19

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2013 16:08

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: John Tank Davis
Probate Date: 12 Mar 1887
Death Date: 16 Nov 1886
Death Place: Southampton, England
Registry: Winchester

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2013 16:09

1851 England Census about John Sank Davis
Name: John Sank Davis
[John Tank Davis]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Davis
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Droxford, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Bishops Waltham
Town: Bishops Waltham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Registration district: Droxford
Sub-registration district: Bishops Waltham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 209
Piece: 1676
Folio: 70
Page Number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
John Sank Davis 23
Caroline Davis 24
Sarah A S Davis 6 Mo
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1881 England Census about John T. Davis
Name: John T. Davis
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Davis
Gender: Male
Where born: Droxford, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Bishops Waltham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: High Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Broker
Registration district: Droxford
Sub-registration district: Bishops Waltham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1236
Folio: 45
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
John T. Davis 55
Mary Ann Davis 55
Gertrude Davis 17
Mabel Davis 11

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2013 16:12

If the man born 1883 was Ronald's father.........no way was he the son of John TANK Davis.


BUT.....have you done anything to find out who Ronald's father actually was?

You appear to have leapt from 1921 to 1828 with nothing having been checked in -between

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Feb 2013 16:13

I think John Tank was to old to be Ronald Augustus Davis grandfather?

Deaths Dec 1886
Davis John Tank 60 Droxford 2c 83

Roy

Thelma

Thelma Report 21 Feb 2013 16:15

Thanks Reggie for that probate of his father .I think it answers the question.
His marriage to Mary Ann Hack gives his name as John Thomas Davis not John Tank Davis.

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Feb 2013 16:17

WHOSE father?

You are not giving any answers to questions.............if you want help, you must do so.

As far as I can tell, you have not been at all systematic................

Astra

Astra Report 21 Feb 2013 16:20

The 1901 for the family shows them with the Hack family members

DAVIS, John Head Married M 52 1849 Dock Labourer
Bishops Waltham, Hampshire VIEW
DAVIS, Mary J Wife Married F 44 1857
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW
DAVIS, John Son Single M 17 1884
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW
DAVIS, George Son M 15 1886
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW
DAVIS, William Son M 12 1889
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW
HACK, Phillis Sister-In-Law Single F 19 1882
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW
HACK, Charles Brother-In-Law Single M 17 1884
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW

Piece: 1057 Folio: 51 Page: 35 Registration District: Southampton Civil Parish: Southampton St Mary Municipal Borough: Address: 24, Queen Street, Southampton St Mary, Southampton County: Hampshire