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Hi to one and all Please see if you can help solve this puzzle, I was mainly looking for Ada E couldrake born about 1900 Wiltshire, she appears in the 1901 c with parents henry/jane , but in the 1911c her parenrs are listed as john/Hannah they both have the same children . and can not find the marriage for either

It states on the 1911 that John and Hannah had been married for 10 years.

Edit:.......oops no.......it says years married.....N K ? (Not Known)

10 children born and living.

How very odd!!

Odd too that Henry/Jane........John/Hannah and son John does not seem to appear in the 1891 census.

For ref.......

Household transcription
1911 census
Person: COULDRAKE, Ada
Address: 27 Newtown Trowbridge

COULDRAKE, John Head Married M 44 1867 Stoker Wiltshire Westbury VIEW
COULDRAKE, Hannah Wife Married F 48 1863 Somerset Farleigh Hungerford VIEW
COULDRAKE, John Son Single M 22 1889 Porter Wiltshire Edington VIEW
COULDRAKE, Hubert Son Single M 19 1892 Porter Wiltshire Edington VIEW
COULDRAKE, Albert Son Single M 18 1893 Builders Labourer Wiltshire Edington VIEW
COULDRAKE, Percy Son Single M 17 1894 Builders Driver Horse Wiltshire Edington VIEW
COULDRAKE, Eva Daughter Single F 15 1896 Wool And Worsted Feeder Wiltshire Edington VIEW
COULDRAKE, Eveline Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW
COULDRAKE, Ada Daughter F 10 1901 School Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW
COULDRAKE, Edith Daughter F 8 1903 Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW
COULDRAKE, Lily Daughter F 6 1905 Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW
COULDRAKE, Alec Son M 4 1907 Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 11967
Reference: RG14PN11967 RG78PN665 RD247 SD2 ED7 SN266
Registration District: Melksham
Sub District: Trowbridge
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: Trowbridge
Address: 27 Newtown Trowbridge
County: Wiltshire


1901 England Census
about Ada Cauldrake
Name: Ada Cauldrake
Age: 8 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Cauldrake
Mother's name: Jane Cauldrake
Gender: Female
Where born: Hilpt Marsh, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Trowbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Staverton St Paul
Town: Trowbridge
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Melksham
Sub-registration district: Trowbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 1932
Folio: 7
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Cauldrake 36 (Farley Castle Somerset)
Jane Cauldrake 35
John Cauldrake 12
Herbert Cauldrake 9
Albert Cauldrake 8
Percy Cauldrake 6
Eva Cauldrake 5
Eveline Cauldrake 2
Ada Cauldrake 8 Months

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Ada Elizabeth Hillman
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1900
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1975
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Trowbridge
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 23
Page: 2032

Using second names maybe?

I wonder if this is the couple?


Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
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Couldrake Harry Westbury, W. 5a 205
Lawrence Annie Alberta Westbury, W. 5a 205



Edit: Second thoughts, this couple seem to apprear on the 1911 :-(

Buy Ada's birth cert..............for full parental details

Henry and John give different birthplaces

Henry's occ; General Labourer Port Watchman

???????

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Couldrake Arthur John Westbury, W. 5a 136

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about John Couldrake
Name: John Couldrake
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 5 Dec 1867
Christening Place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Mother's name: Jane Couldrake

This might be John in 1881...

??
1881 England Census
about John Coldric
Name: John Coldric
[John Coldrake]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Step Son
Mother's name: Jane Burgess
Gender: Male
Where born: Bratton, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Westbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address: Low Bratton
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Westbury
Sub-registration district: Edington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2053
Folio: 26
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Burgess 68
Jane Burgess 63
Effraim Coldric 19
John Coldric 13
Harry Coldric 11

1871
name: John Couldrake
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 3
relationship to head of household: Inmate
birthplace: Westbury, Wiltshire
record type: Household
registration district: Westbury
sub-district: Westbury
event parish: Westbury
county: Wiltshire
inmate Jane Couldrake F 41 Erlestoke, Wiltshire
inmate Mary Couldrake F 11 Westbury, Wiltshire
inmate Ephraim Couldrake M 8 Berkley, Somerset
inmate John Couldrake M 3 Westbury, Wiltshire
inmate Henry Couldrake M 1 Westbury, Wiltshire

In the Union Workhouse...

1871 England Census
about John Couldrake
Name: John Couldrake
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Westbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Westbury
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 1931
Folio: 51
Page Number: 3

Thomas Conldenke 10

Jane Cauldrake 41(Widow) Ag Lab
Mary Cauldrake 11
Ephraim Cauldrake 8
John Cauldrake 3
Henry Cauldrake 1

1881
name: John Coldric
age: 13
gender: Male
birth year: 1868
birthplace: Bratton, Wiltshire, England
relationship to head of household: Step Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Scholar
address: Low Bratton
census place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341494
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2053 / 26
page number: 12
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head John Burgess M 68 Bratton, Wiltshire, England
wife Jane Burgess F 63 Bratton, Wiltshire, England
step son Effraim Coldric M 19 Bratton, Wiltshire, England
step son John Coldric M 13 Bratton, Wiltshire, England
step son Harry Coldric M 11 Bratton, Wiltshire, England

1861 England Census
about Jane Coldrick
Name: Jane Coldrick
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Ephram Coldrick
Gender: Female
Where born: Earlstoke, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Beckington
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 1656
Folio: 24
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Ephram Coldrick 28
Jane Coldrick 27
Mary Coldrick 17 Months
Thomas Coldrick 1 Months

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Henry Coldrake
Name: Henry Coldrake
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Jun 1870
Christening Place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Mother's name: Jane Coldrake

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Ephraim Coldrake
Name: Ephraim Coldrake
Spouse Name: Jane Early
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1854
Registration district: Westbury
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 270

1841 England Census
about Ephraim Coldrick
Name: Ephraim Coldrick
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Edington
Hundred: Whorwelsdown
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Westbury
Sub-registration district: Edington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1188
Book: 16
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Coldrick 30
Ann Coldrick 35
Ephraim Coldrick 10
Benjaman Coldrick 5
Henry Coldrick 1
Charlotte Paradise 60

There are 2 other Coldrick/Coldrake familes on this census record.

In the Union Workhouse.

Jane is a Widow

1871 England Census
about John Couldrake
Name: John Couldrake
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Westbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Westbury
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 1931
Folio: 51
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
William Williams 27
George Hulbert 51
James Vaviour 55
Hannah Brown 73
Ann Knight 58
Catherine Varr 70
Ruth Dick 60
James Doel 44
William Gawin 76
James Orchard 72
John Francis 64
William Coombs 44
John Townsend 76
Henry Hayward 35
George Buyer 47
Thomas Conldenke 10 ********************Reads Couldrake
John Jeffries 55
John Collier 70
James Smith 53
John Saufear 66
William Ferris 79
Henry Drewek 25
Charles Cockrell 18
Stephen Mattheas 74
Harriett Taylor 38
John Taylor 14
William Taylor 2
Mary Ann Cheap 19
Charles Cheap 1
Hannah Bailey 19
Jane Couldrake 41 *********************
Mary Couldrake 11
Ephraim Couldrake 8
John Couldrake 3 **********************
Henry Couldrake 1 ************

I did wonder if John died between 1901 and 1911 and his Brother Henry/Harry took on his children in 1911.........but here is Henry/Harry in the 1901 and 1911

1911 England Census
about Henry Couldrake
Name: Henry Couldrake
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Edington
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: Tinhead, Westbury, Wilts
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 17
Estimated Marriage Year: 1894
Occupation: Labourer Road Man
Registration district: Westbury
Registration District Number: 249
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 12007
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Couldrake 39 (Labourer Road Man)
Annie Couldrake 38
William Couldrake 16
Winnie Couldrake 8
Alfred Champion 29 (Boarder)
(Married 17 years....4 children born, 3 living, 1 had died)



1901 England Census
about William Coldrake
Name: William Coldrake
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Harry Coldrake
Mother's name: Annie Coldrake
Gender: Male
Where born: Bratton

Civil parish: Edington
Ecclesiastical parish: Edington
Town: Tinhead
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Westbury
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1939
Folio: 77
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Coldrake 29
Annie Coldrake 28
William Coldrake 6
Nellie Coldrake 4